Stand up Part-timers

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Ron Carey lives on, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Article 37 states No employees shall be intimidated, harassed, or coerced. As a driver who worked as a pre-loader for 9 years, you may work part-time, but can be a full-time teamster. You are being put in unsafe situations and talked to like dogs. FILE, FILE, FILE . You know who are, we will back you up

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  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Part timers punch in, do their jobs, and go home. The vast majority don't know or care about union activities-----most of them can't even be bothered to vote in a process where everything is done for them.
     
  3. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    When they are pushed like in this, its all our responsibilities to educate and help. Upstatenyupser, with all due respect, maybe they don't vote because they don't feel respected or they are not backed up by us.
     
  4. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    With those ear bud things blasting away, how would they even know what any supervisor is saying?
     
  5. greengrenades

    greengrenades To be the man, you gotta beat the man.

    The problem with part timers is there is nobody there to teach them. They don't have a clue, about ANYTHING. I blame the Union for this. The Union stewards should be greeting these new guys as they come on in the door and handing out books and explaining things to them. But instead they just say it isn't their responsibility. I've talked to part timers who don't even know how to bid or even that they could.
     
  6. AndUPSER

    AndUPSER Active Member

    Like others have said, education is key. My pt steward is absolutely useless. He mostly talks to management about sports and how hard this job is.

    I try to go to the monthly meetings about every other month and they are always glad to see me. I don't know if it's because only about 20-30 people go or if it's because I'm the only part timer from UPS there.
     
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    How did people make it before?


    Wait you people actually talked to each other?!?!?
     
  8. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I totally agree. The union needs sometime of system to educate set up. No not everyone would be interested but a much larger percentage would be.
     
  9. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    It's up to the PTers who know to teach the new hires.and I do whenever possible..but it's also up to them to ask questions when they don't know something.

    Summer Peak is over (technically...we're still heavy as hell) soooo....it's time for the September flavor of the month..Misload Mango Madness. :blahblah::blahblah:
     
  10. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    My pt steward is equally useless...and impossible to find at the end of my day because he works in the primary and leaves before me. If I have a problem...I end up talking to the drivers' steward in my center.
     
  11. AndUPSER

    AndUPSER Active Member

    Yeah, I end up up talking to the 22.3 steward. Is he higher up in seniority among PTers?
     
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  12. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Fairly high yes...has more seniority than me. 22.3 drivers have their own steward? I didn't know that.
     
  13. AndUPSER

    AndUPSER Active Member

    Yeah, we have a 22.3 combo steward for 22.3 employees who work preload/(other job like porter or air driver) and then another 22.3 steward for people who work either day, twilight, or night sort/(other job).
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ....or maybe because for the vast majority it is just a job....
     
  15. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Agreed, we all need to mobilize and get them involved, the way the company is pushing them, it won't be a problem
     
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  16. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Afl-cio offers all kinds of classes in all kinds of areas. Organizing, grievance handeling, Weingarten Rights, steward training, but the IBT should do this., or do they want them uninformed?
     
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Apathy is hard to turn in to motivation.
     
  18. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    For most PTers it is just a second job or a school job or something temporary until something better comes along. Not many plan on staying more then 6 months or a couple years. Most have no contact with the Union until they have a benefit or discipline issue.
     
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Do you understand the "relationship" between the AFL-CIO and the Teamsters ?

    Are you even aware.... of what it is ??



    -Bug-
     
  20. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Uh yeah, thats my point.

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