The 3 day OJS- Violation?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wally, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Look at Article 37, section 2, (p 122).

    ..." No driver will be scheduled for more than one (1) day’s ride
    per year with more than one (1) member of management on the car.
    Such day will not be used for disciplinary purposes
    "...

    It would seem to me, the company can ride once a year only, including annually safety ride. Want to OJS? Go ahead, but you cannot discipline for it.
     
  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

     
  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They can ride as often as needed if there are production issues or excessive customer service issues.
     
  4. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Section 3 covers grieving excessive rides but I read this as a limit on the OJS. It is very vague as is all OJS language.
     
  5. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    They can ride with you all they want. If you feel you are being harassed then file on it and you might get a favorable resolution in that specific instance, but there is nothing in the contract that prevents them from getting on the car with you anytime they feel it is necessary.
     
  6. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    How can more than one management person ride with you when there is only one jumpseat with a seatbelt?
     
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It wouldn't happen today but it wasn't uncommon to have two members of mgt on board at the same time. One would use the jump seat and the other would either squat between the seats or stand in the open cargo area bracing himself by holding on to the shelves. You know you were in for a very long day when you had two sups on the car.
     
  8. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    Early in my career they tried this with me. Informed them that this package car ain't moving until everyone is buckled in. Won that battle.
     
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    They can't do it now.... because of seatbelt laws.

    Antiquated language.



    -Bug-
     
  10. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    There are package cars that have a 3rd seat where the bulkhead door is. It slides out of the way
     
  11. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Remember when the pc didn't even have a jumpseat and the passenger had to stand in the wheel well?
     
  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I would like to see a picture of that.

    When I started driving.... we still had package cars with wood bulkhead doors.



    -Bug-
     
  13. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Who cares how many ride alongside you get. That is the day you follow their methods and take your lunch in the 3rd /5th hour. You will kill them when you need to make a meet. To stay out with a manager on car. Last yr they had atleast 10 with me. For some reason. I always have an 8 hr day.
     
  14. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

     
  15. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    You aren't far from Cincy. Come on down you can see one
     
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    You offer me this....

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    But.... when I show up....


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    -Bug-
     
  17. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Thanks for the new avatar
     
  18. Johney

    Johney Raise your hand if you think Upstate is a D-Bag

    I have seen these also.
     
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Thats, why I like you. :biggrin:



    -Bug-
     
  20. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    I remember a few with big holes in the grey painted plywood. No need for a key, just reach in and unlock from the inside!