Unions:Obama care will shatter backbone of middle class

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Drifta, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Drifta

    Drifta New Member

  2. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    Exactly like Clinton stabbing us in the back with NAFTA, Obama has done the same with ACA.
  3. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    What a surpize, pro-business, anti-union Wall Street Journal with a skewed attack.
  4. BMWSauber1991

    BMWSauber1991 Member

    You do realize you can go and read all the different changes this new healthcare reform will make right?
    It's for the better for all of us anyway. America was built on a group of people that worked together, this just forces us to once again (for the good) to work together.
  5. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    I really wonder if union leadership really cares about its membership?
  6. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    Wrong! America was built on a group of people that had the FREEDOM to choose to work together, and subsequently chose to do so. Freedom was always the key component. Forcing us to do these things that obamacare requires, is the opposite of freedom.
  7. BMWSauber1991

    BMWSauber1991 Member

    I'm fine with that as long as we get rid of S.S., Medicare, Medicare, and Obama care.
  8. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    Goodness... we can only dream of such things!
  9. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

  10. BMWSauber1991

    BMWSauber1991 Member

    Honestly I don't know why I have to pay social security tax. I am younger than 25, I get vested for my pension in one year and I already am saving in my own 401k.
  11. sortaisle

    sortaisle Livin the cardboard dream

    Because my young friend, in 2040 when most if not all of the baby boomer population is gone, and there is a labor surplus to go along with a SS surplus, you'll be glad you pay the tax when it comes time for you to retire. It's going to be up to your and my generation to vote in the right people to make sure SS isn't raped by congress. Glad to see you saving on your own though...people like my folks actually think you're suppose to be able to live off SS. It's always been a supplemental income.
  12. preload1

    preload1 Member

    Because it's a Ponzi scheme concocted by liberals democrats like FDR so the gubmit could use the money for whatever it wanted. And your vote in the last election was for who?
  13. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    LOL. Social security was a bipartisan effort, but strongly pushed by many conservatives & business leaders -- the latter who wanted to shift the burden of traditional pensions onto the government. Of course, the ultraconservative movement today opposes such programs -- and other entitlement programs including public education.

    I do find it ironic how people who benefit from socialist programs -- e.g. union contracts yielding strong H&W benefits -- oppose them. "Yay, I proudly voted for the guy who thinks I should be making wages similar to what FedEx Ground drivers make. I'm overpaid, I'm overpaid, I'm overpaid!!! YAY"
  14. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    Its a simple philosophy... keep the government out of my paycheck and personal affairs. If liberals really want to fund these welfare programs so much, let them fund it out of their own paychecks.
  15. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    If you despise socialist programs so much, then quit your job (union contracts are one of socialism's biggest sins) and go work for market rate at FedEx Ground.

    ...The people that say things like this are the first ones to whine & cry when they retire but are broke, anyway.
  16. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    I think the US should just go back to the dirty 30's !
    Cut the Unions, cut all social programs, including union helath care, medicare, all other social programs, etc.
    Then you can compete with China !
    No more paid vacation, etc, and that stupid 40hr work week - that needs to be gone, too !
  17. thedownhillEXPRESS

    thedownhillEXPRESS Well-Known Member

    That's pretty much the Republican platform!!
  18. BMWSauber1991

    BMWSauber1991 Member

    Ron Paul actually.
  19. sortaisle

    sortaisle Livin the cardboard dream

    I personally find it amusing that Hoffa is barking about the possible destruction of the 40 hr. workweek when the majority of his constituents either work under 20 or over 50 hrs. a week.
  20. Upsmule

    Upsmule Well-Known Member

    Clearly, a few more million to the Obama campaign would have been a smarter move?