US solider freed from captivity in Afghanistan

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
It will be next to impossible to drone these 5 .
Especially while in Qatar .

If they are in Qatar and we know their whereabouts, we can have them killed anytime we want. We don't need drones, we don't even need to do it ourselves, I am sure the Saudis and/or the Israelis would be more than happy to take them out for us.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Of course but your implication was that there could be no other way because all option disappear at five years. That's what I disagree with. This may have been the best way but I would never claim that there could be no other options.

Where is all the outrage over the Reagan tape? Too bad Ronnie didn't appear in full Taliban garb, complete with gun belt and headwear.."Mission Accomplished!!". There's nothing you can say, because they were "Freedom Fighters" then. The Taliban now isn't much different from the Taliban then. Reagan was anti-American, a Muslim sympathizer, and probably born in Tehran because father was Iranian! Plus, I think he must have been a Nazi and a Socialist. This tape is proof of his evil.
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
Where is all the outrage over the Reagan tape? Too bad Ronnie didn't appear in full Taliban garb, complete with gun belt and headwear.."Mission Accomplished!!". There's nothing you can say, because they were "Freedom Fighters" then. The Taliban now isn't much different from the Taliban then. Reagan was anti-American, a Muslim sympathizer, and probably born in Tehran because father was Iranian! Plus, I think he must have been a Nazi and a Socialist. This tape is proof of his evil.


Why such desperation from the leftists?
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
If they are in Qatar and we know their whereabouts, we can have them killed anytime we want. We don't need drones, we don't even need to do it ourselves, I am sure the Saudis and/or the Israelis would be more than happy to take them out for us.


Did you really just advocate murder?
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
If they are in Qatar and we know their whereabouts, we can have them killed anytime we want. We don't need drones, we don't even need to do it ourselves, I am sure the Saudis and/or the Israelis would be more than happy to take them out for us.

The Israelis do not mess around. Someday, Google the back story on how Israel deals with enemy scientists who are inventing weapons designed for attack against Israel. They contact them, make it very clear they'll be dead if they continue with the project, and then kill them if they don't comply. Works for me.
 

soberups

Pees in the brown Koolaid
Look at what the Israelis did to the terrorists who killed their athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972. They spent the next 25 years tracking them down all over the globe and killing them. The fact that we "released" these terrorists does not necessarily mean that they will escape justice for whatever crimes they might have committed.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Of course but your implication was that there could be no other way because all option disappear at five years. That's what I disagree with. This may have been the best way but I would never claim that there could be no other options.
at the end of the war, the 5 would have been released. There is no reason to assume that Bergdahl would have been. The president got something for something instead of nothing for something.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
The danger these guys actually pose seems a bit overhyped to me. They were all captured pretty early on and they've been locked up for 10+ years, whatever position they held with the taliban has been long since filled. Their release has some personal and maybe some propaganda value to taliban but not much more than that. If they insist on getting back into action so what? They're just 5 more guys at this point, it's not like they're super terrorist commandos who are going to change the course of the war. And killing them in a drone strike now that we've got Bergdahl back would be completely counterproductive, all it would serve to do is demonstrate that we negotiate in bad faith and can't be trusted to uphold our end of the deal and the next time they manage to catch someone they'll just cut his head off on the internet.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
The Taliban isn't going away. They will be part of the Afghani governing coalition and freeing these five helps move toward an effective government. If they decide to wage war on the US or the legitimate government, there is no doubt in my mind they can and will be neutralized.
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
at the end of the war, the 5 would have been released. There is no reason to assume that Bergdahl would have been. The president got something for something instead of nothing for something.


Well since this offer has been on the table some time now why not take it a year ago if there were no other options?
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
didn't say there were no other options. Said that those options (such as rescue) hadn't panned out in 5 years.


it's been 5 years. I'd say the other options were pretty well exhausted.


Looks to me that you think there is some magical time limit of five years for any options for any type of hostage rescue/military action/diplomatic activity and I just disagree.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
When the war ends in the next couple months and the detainees at Guantanamo are released anyway, a prisoner exchange is not possible. If other attempts at freeing Bergdahl over the past 5years have not been fruitful, why would they be in the next couple months?
 

av8torntn

Well-Known Member
When the war ends in the next couple months and the detainees at Guantanamo are released anyway, a prisoner exchange is not possible. If other attempts at freeing Bergdahl over the past 5years have not been fruitful, why would they be in the next couple months?


You tell me. You're the one making that claim.
 

trickpony1

Well-Known Member
This maybe beyond the scope of my understanding since I'm just a truck driver but.......

-someone help me understand why the "enemy" gave BB a turban when he was released almost to say, "...here....you will need this some day;

-someone help me understand why BB's father uttered words that would seem to sanctify the white house under the name of islam if his captors were such terrible, vile people;

-someone help me understand why BB"s father grew his beard out almost to suggest adherence with the captors protocol.

Help me understand.....
 
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