What is the TDU's agenda?

Discussion in 'The Archives' started by bigbrown, Aug 21, 2002.

  1. bigbrown

    bigbrown Guest

  2. my2cents

    my2cents Guest

    If you are interested in getting a profile on TDU, try GuideStar. In the search box type in Teamters for a Democratic Union and you will receive the search result.

    Ideologically speaking, I think these guys are left of center. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if some of these guys are grassroots socialists, judging from the material I have read in the past on TDU's website. I know some union leaders are socialists. John Sweeney, for example, is a well known member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

    I think the IBT is concerned with the TDU faction because of a potentially rejected UPS contract referendum. I believe much of the "no" vote is probably being influenced to some degree by TDU.
     
  3. upsdude

    upsdude Guest

    I attended a TDU recruiting meeting about 10 years ago. The TDU representative began the meeting with a speech about the need to elect Ron Carey. The Carey speech didnt bother me because at the time I was in complete agreement. The meetings agenda then quickly turned to abortion rights, corporate greed and the need for Government owned business. Socialists beliefs were definitely dear to the organizers heart. I excused myself and quietly left the room shaking my head.
     
  4. tieguy

    tieguy Guest

    Unfortunately the labor movement also attracts the insane socialist. TDU is a haven for their agenda. Visit their web page and you will see that a solidified union is the last thing on their plate.
     
  5. edheisler

    edheisler Guest

    I am not a TDU member. Most militant and progessive Teamsters are not TDU members because either we disagree with TDU or simply know little about the organization. However, several thousand Teamsters who do not support the policies of James Hoffa and want a more militant and effective labor union "are behind" this group and have joined it.

    Just visit their website if you want to know their position on the UPS contract and other issues.

    Some trade unionists in all labor unions are "left-wingers" or socialists and other trade unionists are conservatives and even right-wing Bush supporters. There have always been socialists and other radicals in the union movement here and abroad. In fact, socialists have played prominent roles in organizing the union movement during its biggest periods of growth and expanding influence such as during the Great Depression. There also has always been a right-wing in the labor movement. For example, today IBT General President James Hoffa and a small number of union bureaucrats clearly represent the right-wing in organized labor. They are a small minority in the union officialdom.

    Now how can right-wingers think it is perfectly all right for them to present their views which are weakening the organized labor movement while they slander those in organized labor who do not support their positions ?

    Instead of smearing, slandering and red-baiting those they disagree with they should state their real opinions and political agenda.

    I can think of one good reason why many right-wingers shy away from real debate and discussion. Their ideas are shallow and cannot be defended with hard facts and reasoned arguments.
     
  6. my2cents

    my2cents Guest

    Whatever man. I'm sick of all the polarized arguments and I don't believe in compulsory unionism.
     
  7. tieguy

    tieguy Guest

    Ed excellent post. You gave a beutifull example of exactly what you ended up accusing the right wingers of.
     
  8. upsmule

    upsmule Guest

    one hard fact here...COMUNISM DOESN'T WORK! All you left winger's out there that think bigger government is the answer to all the problems in the WORLD.........MOVE!
     
  9. edheisler

    edheisler Guest

    And what would that be tieguy? You were extremely vague.

    It seems that it is George Bush and his biggest right-wing supporters who favor a "big brother" government upsmule. Do you plan on joining TIPS anytime soon?
     
  10. upsmule

    upsmule Guest

    we live in a different world now since 911, thank GOD there is an administration willing to actually do something in reguards to protecting it's citizens...unlike the last adminastration that did absolutely NOTHING back in 92 when they tried to bring down the towers with one hell of a bomb blast in the basement, I guess 8 dead wasn't such a big deal to janet reno and the rest of the gang running the show back then! Protection of it's citizens happends to be THE primary perpose of government! (just a mule on his soap box here, thanks)[​IMG]
     
  11. edheisler

    edheisler Guest

    You think Bush will be doing anything to protect us from his friends like Kenneth Lay anytime soon?
     
  12. tieguy

    tieguy Guest

    Never heard of TIPS Ed, I feel confident Bush won't ever desicrate the oval office by engaging in adulterous oral sex.
     
  13. tieguy

    tieguy Guest

    Ed my point was your post was extremely vague and therefore an excellent example of fluff with no detail.
     
  14. upsmule

    upsmule Guest

    I don't recall the las time Ken lay was flying airplains into any buildings or blowing up anything anywere...your point please?