Bubblehead
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One man, one computer, on a solo mission across the Web.
With a little help from friends, he will save the windmills from the wrath of Don Quixote.
Why are all the anti Old Guard and Mafia posts deleted?
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With a little help from friends, he will save the windmills from the wrath of Don Quixote.
The answer isn't "Teamcare" or "The UPS Plan" or even some hybrid. We all know the answer isn't the private sector medical industry who only want to maximize profits. The answer is to get the profit motive out of the health care industry. Health care should be a right not a privilege or a luxury. The simplest answer is a Medicare-for-All type Single Payer System!!
Whatbrownwontdoforyou
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I agree......that's the point I was trying to make that it didn't matter what plan it was
In the bigger picture of social and economic justice, you are right. But on the above poster's individual case and others, there are specific differences that seem more negative than positive. Members get used to something and cant let go. But also they were promised all would be ok. It seems to be a false promise.
Which would make being a doctor less lucrative, which mean less jobs in the field, which means higher demand, which mean less qualified offered positions, which mean less quality healthcare.
Really?? Doctors in Japan, Taiwan, Germany, France, England, etc all live a really good life. Each of those countries has a high standard of living and quality health care. You need to stop believing the rt wing praises of the "wonders" of our corrupt, immoral and overpriced private medical system.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I went to see my personal physician yesterday morning. I also deliver to his office. We started talking during the exam and he was venting about how difficult the bureaucracy has made his job. He likes to visit with his patients while Medicare prefers that he spend less time with them. He says that it will only continue to get worse.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
How do you do that, in a free.... capitalist society ?
Amend the constitution ?
Here comes the "socialism" pitch....
If you want to "give up" your rights as a free American....
By all means, go live there.
Don't try and impose, your ill conceived thoughts on me or others.
It's beyond lame.
-Bug-
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Preventative measures.
She's been foaming at the mouth lately.
10 point
Well-Known Member
Change toothpaste.
Sorry man
..I Will leave her alone
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Let me clarify that the U.S. is nowhere near the top in freedom indexes, quality of life, and so on. So your "free American" in a "free capitalist society" rhetoric, is actually what is beyond lame. And incorrect.
Having said that, the idea of "for free" doesn't sit well with me.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Elaborate your thoughts.
And, where you would rather live.
Does living in the "Land of the free, and home of the Brave" bother you ?
Any financial rewards you have incurred, are from living and working in this country.
Right ??
Help me out.
-Bug-
UnconTROLLed
perfection
My opinion
has nothing to do....
with the facts I presented.
Maybe
You will address them
instead of changing focus away from you being wrong
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
Wrong. It's as easy as not being able to work for a week due to injury or illness away from work.
Lead Belly
BANNED
Yep and in Ohio you can also collect unemployment.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Lead Belly
BANNED
He's one of those guys who sits back and criticizes. He's got all kinds of reason why he can't get involved. Internet quarterback is all he has time for because it's all about him. I would ask to much out of him. He to busy worrying about himself.
So countries like England, France, Germany, Japan, etc are NOT "free"?? That is silly. As for "capitalist", we do have public schools, public hospitals, public libraries,etc, yet most Americans are fine with that "socialism". This is 2015, not 1950. Americans are not scared by that word anymore.
You wouldn't have to amend the constitution. Congress would only have to amend the Medicare Law by striking the words "65 years or older".
I/we would not be "giving up" any rights. A matter of fact we would be expanding our rights. The only entities that would lose actual "rights" are the private insurance companies. Alas.
"Lame" would be keeping a system that doesn't cover all citizens and costs more per capita than any other major industrial country that implements a Single Payer System. Throwing the words "free" and "socialism" around are reactionary methods of scaring the populace into keeping the status quo. Just listen how some Republican reactionaries speak about unions as "socialistic" and taking away workers' "freedoms".
