Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by burco8080, Oct 11, 2013.
so now what happens?
Well for one thing, I would not expect that backpay check before Christmas
IBT sits down and re-negotiates the supplements that did not pass. Several other supplements have not even been negotiated yet (ie. Local 89's Air Rider). Along with the third round of ballots, IBT must also send a strike authorization ballot per the IBT constitution.
Not to mention 705 and 710. This thing could drag on for another year easily until the contract is truly ratified.
Going to be a nice Christmas bonus ... Christmas 2014.
In the meantime, UPS gets to use your money interest free (not that interest rates are all that high).
PiedmontSteward.....in regard to "IBT must also send a strike authorization ballot per the IBT constitution"; are these strike authorization ballots sent to all members or just those that turned down their supplements ?
Right. Which is why UPS could care less how long this thing drags on. Plus the longer it goes on, the more it tears
the union apart. All they've got to do is keep it quiet.
Still waiting for 177's supplement.
You know the answer to that.
Why are you being aloof?
Dont forget "WE" in the west havent voted on our supplements and riders yet. EXPECT another NO VOTE out here as well.
407 and Stink...
good luck filing out that strike ballot!
It says it has to send them out. Not when they actually will. Way after Xmas. There will be no rush by either side. They know the members will want their raises. After Xmas corporate UPS will send down to cut areas. "Too punish the ungrateful". Hope all are keeping your hrs. Unless you expect UPS to be honest..........
Ballots are only sent out to the members covered by the supplement. The clause I quote below kicks in after a supplement has been voted down a second time.. the language is pretty clear, in my opinion, by stating "shall" rather than "may":
Source: IBT Constitution, 2011. http://www.teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/IBT-Constitution-2011.pdf, Art. XII, Sec. 2 (p 93-94)
Additionally, according to my reading of the IBT Constitution, the NMA cannot be re-opened. There might be a clause in there somewhere that can permit it, but -- to be frank -- I'm just not that familiar with the IBT's by-laws.
Source: IBT Constitution, 2011. http://www.teamster.org/sites/teamster.org/files/IBT-Constitution-2011.pdf, Art. XII, Sec. 2 (p 91-92)
we're probably going to have the best insurance in the country after the carve out. you're still going to vote no though right?
I think the answer to that is yes unless TOS is appointed/elected as an officer of the local.
That's what he is all about anyway.
Was looking forward to buying on some dips if folks get scared with the debt ceiling.
You can simply go back on UPSers and look at your past paychecks. If there is a discepencey, you got shorted more than .70. One should make sure your check is correct every week, not just when you're expecting back pay based in hours worked/bonus.
A strike would break the union I bet. I can't see a majority of these members going out on the street over this stuff. A lock out could happen but a strike wouldn't be supported by the majority and most would probably cross the line. Just saying
You can't reason with crazy. Don't waste your time. I bet it passes out west.
Don't see either happening. The company was able to profit in the billions while the building, housing and automotive sectors all saw massive losses in the recession. The company will not lock us out and risk a very likely massive loss in business and revenue. They have shareholders to account for. But I also don't see us striking.
It'll get worked out, but it's going to take awhile. However, I highly, HIGHLY doubt our supplement out West gets voted through.
Agree totally. Just a lot of wiggle room for either side to worry about it. For maybe a yr. By the time all supplements are agreed and mailed. Then voted. What are there 10 yet that need to be even voted on the 2nd time. Which I believe will be voted down. Right now it will be catch up for all the supplements to get to a 3rd vote.
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