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Its a NO vote on both international and local 804 supplement. From local 804 members
Same.here!!!!Its a NO vote on both international and local 804 supplement. From local 804 members
Local 804 members voted down the national contract 1594-618. Members turned down the Local 804 Supplement by a vote of 1380-844. (62% to 38%)
Teamsters Local 804
The supplement S U C K E D !!!!!!!! The members of local 804 can not be fooled. No supplement will pass with part time package car drivers, giving up election day (in any shape or form)They need to start over from the beginning.
ups has treated people like dogs the last few years..trying to fire people left and right for things that are marginal at best....people don't forget the harassment, ojs, micromanagement, etc....thats why people are mad about things and the ones that were on the fence about the contract jumped on the no side.
Very simple 804...WE the Union aren't willing to sell out full time work for a week off in summer...this will lead to UPS abuse...If u think it wont you are in management...From my understanding the pension increase still has to be voted on by a board and is not guaranteed regardless of a yes vote(Im not 100% on this)...but if its not clear I have to vote no...but the real concern is the part timers doing full time work...if this is out of the supplement and a couple of other things are tweaked it would probably pass...
One thing that can be construed as controversial is the VCDs. Fine. if they take that off the table, then the extra vacation weeks go too i guess. I got over 25 years, i get plenty of summer vacation but i thought it was a good arrangement to expand the number of drivers out during the summer. As for election day, ONCE AGAIN it is still there for all who want to work it and still get triple time. So stop the lies.
that's actually a very good question...I wonder who the 618 were....I voted no.My question is: WHO ARE THE 618 MEMBERS OF OUR LOCAL WHO ACTUALLY VOTE YES ON THE NATIONAL!! No one, I mean no one said they were voting for the national. Im getting a feeling that many members were really confused on this. Explaining things about the contract at ONE union meeting is good but certainly NOT ADEQUATE enough to pass this supplement. Members are not that clued in to what is going on. They are too busy or apathetic.
Yet even 618 of THIS LOCAL actually voted yes on this weak national contract. I find that incredible. I will bet that if the board put the SAME supplement out for a re vote AFTER the national is settled and AFTER A REAL GET OUT THE VOTE CAMPAIGN, the supplement WOULD PASS. Probably wont happen because of the lack of time with an August 1st deadline.
My question is: WHO ARE THE 618 MEMBERS OF OUR LOCAL WHO ACTUALLY VOTE YES ON THE NATIONAL!! No one, I mean no one said they were voting for the national.