As a newly full time package driver am I guarantee 8 hour?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by The Chosen 1, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    As a newly full time package driver am I guarantee 8 hours? If so how would this apply with me if i had to work inside the hub. I'm in the Southern Supplement if that helps any.
  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Working inside the Hub you are only guaranteed 3 1/2 hours per sort. Most FT package car drivers don't want 8 hours because it is a lot more work then they are used to.
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  3. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Wrong , if I understand the OP.
    If you go to work as a driver and they say "we don't have work for you" you can and are entitled to your 8 hours. They could have you clean the floors or toilets. Whatever it is you can get your 8 hours. In some locals you can even refused to work out of classification and demand 8 as a driver.
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  4. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    I will have to look it up, but I believe a driver who is laid off for a day can displace 2 p/t and get their 8 hours. (this is in the Southern)
  5. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    Nice to know that info. When you find the exact verbiage in supplement please let me know so I could read up on it.
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Single digit midget!

    You can find the NMA and all of the supplements at

    Do your own homework.
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  7. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    Learn to read a contract book yourself instead of depending on others to do the work for you.

    As a full timer you are guaranteed 8 hours of work daily. If you choose to go home if there is no work then you forfeit your 8 hour of pay/work.
  8. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Reading the contract is not rocket science. Do it yourself so you better understand your job, your rights and your responsibilities.

  9. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    Thanks for the feedback everyone.
  10. burrheadd

    burrheadd Esquire

    What'd you get Chosen for
  11. DumbTruckDriver

    DumbTruckDriver Allergic to cardboard.

    Several of us made the jump to full time around the same time three years ago. There wasn't enough work to go around, so I got my 8 by double shifting (preload and local sort). It wasn't ideal, but a guarantee is a guarantee.
  12. StoptheAct1212

    StoptheAct1212 Active Member

    Your a ft driver. You show up to drive they have to offer you work. If not u get 8 hrs pay to go home. File the grievance. They have to give u a heads up if you are not driving a day ahead of time. And offer you inside the buildibg work. You may have to work preload and reload to get the 8, but this is what happens to the lower seniority guys... never to me but ive seen it over the years... at least you made the ft cutt, just stick out the bullsiiiit.
  13. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Bottom 10% of FT drivers do not have a 40 hr/wk guarantee. You have the right to displace the lowest PT employee on any sort as long as you have more company seniority and you have a 3 1/2 hour guarantee.
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  14. The Chosen 1

    The Chosen 1 God, Family, UPSer

    Gotcha! But I have one question, will I get my hub rate or driver FT rate if I had to work inside?
  15. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    Hub rate
  16. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Full time drivers don't have a hub rate. Just their FT rate. You do need to punch in on a board and code the time out as a sort in Other Work.
  17. StoptheAct1212

    StoptheAct1212 Active Member

    Im not exactly sure, but to get driver rate. U hotta drive once a week. But dont quote me on that
  18. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    This is clearly explained in your contract and supplement, including pay rates.
  19. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    Full time hub rate. So if you're in progression you would actually get paid MORE to work inside.
    Our bottom feeder drivers complain about having to work inside because they don't like actually having to work. But when they drive they would only get $18.75 driving. If they work in the hub they make $28+. They complain when they drive and they don't make "enough" and they complain when they have to work in the hub and have to WORK. Can't win sometimes.
  20. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Our laid off package car drivers make starting FT inside rate, $15/hr. Not sure why Feeders would be any different. And yes they complain because the work is so much harder and they are treated like crap.