BA Told Me I Can Not Do ANY Driving Jobs As Retired Feeder?

Discussion in 'UPS Retirement Topics' started by olroadbeech, Sep 28, 2015.

  1. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    this doesnt seem right or fair. i want to do some kind of trucking now that i am a retired feeder driver.

    i can understand maybe no freight hauling but what about hauling oil or cars or hay or seasonal crops or anything not related to packages?

    does it mean anything that a Teamster can haul I cant do?

    does any retired feeder drivers on the west coast have any experience about going back to work in some kind of trucking? ( without losing their pension )

    did i get some wrong info from my BA?
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Our pension fund limits the number of hours that you can work in the same industry to 40 per month.

    If you wanted to keep working (and your center manager begged you to stay), why did you retire?
  3. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    Quoted from Central Pa Pension Fund:

    What Are the Rules for Suspension of Benefits if I Work After I Begin to Receive Benefits?
    The Pension Fund’s Suspension of Benefit Rules generally provide that your monthly pension benefit will be suspended (i.e. stopped) if you are reemployed after retirement in a similar type job (or supervising a similar type job) that you had prior to retirement. * However, there are exceptions to this rule.

    Your monthly pension benefits will not be suspended for any month in which you are paid for less than 56 hours, regardless of whether the pay is for working or non-working hours. In determining whether you are paid for 56 or more hours, the Fund doesn’t count pay you receive for vacation, sick time, holidays, disability or severance.

    Additionally, your benefits will not be suspended unless all three of the following apply to your new job:

    • The job is in an industry or business in which employees covered by the Pension Fund are employed, and
    • The job is in the trade or craft in which you worked as a Teamster. (Note: this “trade or craft requirement” for suspension will generally be met if your present job requires you to use the skills that you used as a Teamster), and
    • The job is in the same geographic area covered by the Pension Fund.
    Furthermore, the Pension Fund will not suspend pension checks to any person who is age 70 ½ or older.

    Your's may be different.
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  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    That sounds about right.
    The "same industry" constraint can be a bit fuzzy.
    Always check with BA first and get it in writing.
    Now that you are retired, the Teamster Union takes UPS's place as The Man.
    I even knew this as management since Drivers always complained about this.
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  5. navigator

    navigator Member

    75 yrs old, retired feeder driver, Teamster Pension going to make big cuts also will run out of funds. Trying to get on as casual/seasonal driver. My friend and supervisor in Mn. say's there taking on Retired drivers. In Az not taking on Feeder drivers except UPS Freight. still in limbo as how much my cut will be.
    Nothing is in life is guardanteed
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  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    If you are a retired UPS feeder driver your cuts, if there are any, will be minimal.
  7. Oldtimer

    Oldtimer New Member

    Q13: In the UPS/IBT Plan, what are the re-employment restrictions if I decide to work somewhere else after retirement?
    A: The UPS/IBT Plan has no such restriction and will only exclude you from receiving a benefit payment if you return to work for UPS or one of its Related Companies.
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  8. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    I am assuming rule gets suspended for the people asked to come back to work peak season.
  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Good point!
    Why should UPS care if it is paying the pension!

    Don't know but makes sense and a good question. Several BCers posted about this last peak.
  10. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    I got the letter from my local last fall about returning to package. I forget the exact dates, but I could have gone back and drive for up to six months.

    Sorry, no.
  11. Areyoukiddinme

    Areyoukiddinme best 2 weeks ever

    give retirement a some stuff, take a trip, volunteer somewhere. that sense of urgency will fade!
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  12. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Took me about 9 months and now I don't have an ounce of urgency in me.
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  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

  14. rod

    rod retired and happy

    I think once you turn 70 you can do as you please------but check it out first with whoever is writing your pension checks. You don't want to mess up a good thing------they can manage to do that themselves.
  15. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    We had a retired driver who started a lawnmower repair business out of his garage. They found out and threatened to pull his pension.
  16. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    That shouldn't matter at all.
  17. rod

    rod retired and happy

    When I retired they told be that the only jobs I could do without checking with them first were drive a school bus or ANY government job. Apparently they didn't want to get in a big pissing match with the Feds about their silly retirement rules.
  18. rod

    rod retired and happy

    From what I've seen happen to everyone I know who retired from UPS was that as long as you weren't doing another Union job, another trucking job or a job that included health benefits they would approve you doing it.
  19. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    I agree, but That's what I was told.
  20. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Here it used to be you were not allowed to have any job after you retired. Many people would do under the table work like that lawnmower repair guy. It did change to where now you can work but with the restrictions on Teamster industry jobs.