Bernie Sanders 2016

rickyb

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Don't get me wrong , I love Canada .
Especially on 911 , those friend-15 flying air cover over Boston had nice big red Maple leafs on them .
when i find some feedback on bernie sanders tax plan from a source i trust, ill post it here.

realbrowns didnt pass my BS test. you could probably check what vox.com says about corporate taxes and whether they quote the 33% official rate, or the real rate which is around 12%
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Yet somehow you are still making it.

I would gladly pay 9% more to have free health care and tuition for my grandchildren. On top of that, the rate includes Bernie's entire wish list!

Read your own links, it might help you appear to be brighter than you are. ;)
I am not in the 40% tax bracket.

I am barely in the 28% tax bracket, and will drop down to the 25% tax bracket in 2016.

I couldn't make it in a 40% tax bracket.
 

wkmac

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There have been several posts mentioning socialism in varying forms and degrees, what some might call State Socialism but nothing yet said of Market Socialism or even Free Market Socialism.

The irony is that neither State Capitalism or State Socialism want anything to do with these 2 forms and much less so the latter than the former.

I've talked about this elsewhere but the person who coined the term socialism Henri de Saint-Simon also created a political and economic ideology called industrialism and in fact, some of you who condemn socialism actually echo some of Saint Simon's socialist ideas without even knowing it.

He created a political and economic ideology known as industrialism that claimed that the needs of an industrial class, which he also referred to as the working class, needed to be recognized and fulfilled to have an effective society and an efficient economy.[8] Unlike later conceptions by others of a working class being manual labourers alone, Saint-Simon's conception of this class included all people engaged in productive work that contributed to society, that included businesspeople, managers, scientists, bankers, along with manual labourers amongst others.[9] He said the primary threat to the needs of the industrial class was another class he referred to as the idling class, that included able people who preferred to be parasitic and benefit from the work of others while seeking to avoid doing work.[8] Saint-Simon stressed the need for recognition of the merit of the individual and the need for hierarchy of merit in society and in the economy, such as society having hierarchical merit-based organizations of managers and scientists to be the decision-makers in government.[9] He strongly criticized any expansion of government intervention into the economy beyond ensuring no hindrances to productive work and reducing idleness in society, regarding intervention beyond these as too intrusive.[8]
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
i dont think being a career politician is necessarily a bad thing. more of a case of what you do while in office
How about not knowing that you actually are a career politician if you have served 25 years in congress.

That alone should disqualify the man for elected office.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
How about not knowing that you actually are a career politician if you have served 25 years in congress.

That alone should disqualify the man for elected office.
well im sure youve never voted for someone who fits that description. you voting for trump will be the first time youve got it right in a long time, and you can do better than trump.

but anyways dennis kucinich fits that description.

and aside from that, its a ridiculous thing to say. if your voting someone for prez, you might want them to have a lot of political experience lol. not to say trump isnt gonna get stuff done, but he could have alot more experience.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
I drew 52 weeks of paychecks last year from Liberty Mutual without working for it.
I must be a socialist. Guess Bernie gets my vote.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
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