CAUGHT FT SUP FUDGING TOTAL HOURS TO MAKE PRODUCTION NUMBERS LOOK BETER

[EastBrown N Down]

Hey all happy holidays!
That out of the way, I recently hve been beefing with the ft sup over several points. I have come out on top of every beef so far. Last week my hours were off(again, as they always are...) I asked for him to fix them, he said ok, then told me he did, and then he never did. My STEWARD told meto go to the center manager. I did an explained the situation. The center manager told me we would get I straightened out. Meanwhile, my ft sup hears that Im in the center manager's office talking about my timecard. he bursts in and acts very innocent. "can I help you guys out with anything?" We rehash it all out for him. He says "xxxx, if you had a paycheck problem you could have come to me... BLAHBLAH chain of command... then on the walk back to my pull, he calls me an ignorant dick for going to his boss.. blah blahh... whatever.

Backstory done. Next, I look at my stubs to see if I was wrong or missed something? He made me feel bad. So I look and see that I was paid 4 hours of ot, I had no ot that week. I was owed 2 hours of straight pay, so he took 4 straight hrs from me, gave me 4 ot hrs, and that gave me my time owed without adding to my total hours worked. That s union members out of hours accrued for insurance?? I look back and he has done this several times. I asked my friends to check theyre checks as well, and they did it to them also. Shouldn't this prick be fired for falsifying documents??

 

[EastBrown N Down]

actually it was 3 weeks ago not last week, sorry

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

I have seen more than one FT sup walked to the gate for fudging numbers. It's an honesty problem for them. UPS likes to make examples of dishonest people.

 

[PiedmontSteward]

Hey all happy holidays!
That out of the way, I recently hve been beefing with the ft sup over several points. I have come out on top of every beef so far. Last week my hours were off(again, as they always are...) I asked for him to fix them, he said ok, then told me he did, and then he never did. My STEWARD told meto go to the center manager. I did an explained the situation. The center manager told me we would get I straightened out. Meanwhile, my ft sup hears that Im in the center manager's office talking about my timecard. he bursts in and acts very innocent. "can I help you guys out with anything?" We rehash it all out for him. He says "xxxx, if you had a paycheck problem you could have come to me... BLAHBLAH chain of command... then on the walk back to my pull, he calls me an ignorant dick for going to his boss.. blah blahh... whatever.

Backstory done. Next, I look at my stubs to see if I was wrong or missed something? He made me feel bad. So I look and see that I was paid 4 hours of ot, I had no ot that week. I was owed 2 hours of straight pay, so he took 4 straight hrs from me, gave me 4 ot hrs, and that gave me my time owed without adding to my total hours worked. That s union members out of hours accrued for insurance?? I look back and he has done this several times. I asked my friends to check theyre checks as well, and they did it to them also. Shouldn't this prick be fired for falsifying documents??

You don't need a certain amount of hours for insurance coverage, only one "report" (a day where you show up and are at least on the clock") per week. More importantly, total hours worked contribute towards PT Pension Credit. PT'ers need 750 hours/year for a full year of pension credit.

I'm not really understanding how you "lost" 4 hours of straight time and then receive 4 hours of OT and that didn't add up on your total time worked.

That being said, you should file a report with the ethical complaint line: https://www.tnwgrc.com/UPS/default_eng.htm

If you're clocking out and the supervisor is altering your time card, he's having to do so electronically under his ID. There's a history in the time card system of all Paid Time Edits (PTE); HR/loss prevention can investigate these things pretty quickly and usually the supervisor is canned if he's culpable.

 

[superballs63]

Too much reading, what a huge surprise though.....a sup screwing with numbers

 

[trickpony1]

Juggling numbers has been going on for years......probably longer than some of you have been alive.

Atlanta knows it's happening.

The determining factor as to whether a sup gets fired for it is:
1) is the sup well liked;
2) does he have some "dirt" on his boss or others above him and:
3) who does the sup know.

just my opinion and experience.......

 

[oldngray]

Many times management will monkey with numbers and usually it is ignored. Periodically a token sup will be made an example of but usually not. Most of the time the numbers changing helps the UPS profit picture and since every center generates its own profit/loss reports there is a hidden incentive for sups to be dishonest - those numbers are what management bonuses and promotions are based on.

 

[PT Stewie]

Ups is like the Catholic Church bad priest -bad sup........ transfer them to another parish ,center or hub .
They are always fudging the numbers. My feeling is if an employee gets caught stealing they get walked out the door. If a sup cheats a worker time its the same "stealing" and out they should go.
Don't even ask me what they should do with the priests.

 

[Wally]

A call to the Attorney General's office would cause panic among management.

Anyone else getting sick of management ripping off employees?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Dishonesty gets an hourly walled out the door. It is job security for management.

 

[Mugarolla]

Dishonesty gets an hourly walled out the door. It is job security for management.

It is sometimes a job requirement for management.

 

[clean hairy]

Could be former circus performers who decided juggling chainsaws was too dangerous.
so they went to work at UPS where juggling numbers was safer.

Juggling numbers has been going on for years......probably longer than some of you have been alive.

Atlanta knows it's happening.

The determining factor as to whether a sup gets fired for it is:
1) is the sup well liked;
2) does he have some "dirt" on his boss or others above him and:
3) who does the sup know.

just my opinion and experience.......

 

[TooTechie]

You don't need a certain amount of hours for insurance coverage, only one "report" (a day where you show up and are at least on the clock") per week.

In my local (we have our own health care fund) the part timers have to have x hours worked within x rolling months to keep health care active so hours worked are important for them here.

 

[Packmule]

I have seen more than one FT sup walked to the gate for fudging numbers. It's an honesty problem for them. UPS likes to make examples of dishonest people.

I've had 4 sups over the years put on suspension for fudging numbers. None fired, but all quit or retired early because of it.
Company's response? Telematics to spy on drivers. Go figure.

 

[Anonymous 11]

Hey all happy holidays!
That out of the way, I recently hve been beefing with the ft sup over several points. I have come out on top of every beef so far. Last week my hours were off(again, as they always are...) I asked for him to fix them, he said ok, then told me he did, and then he never did. My STEWARD told meto go to the center manager. I did an explained the situation. The center manager told me we would get I straightened out. Meanwhile, my ft sup hears that Im in the center manager's office talking about my timecard. he bursts in and acts very innocent. "can I help you guys out with anything?" We rehash it all out for him. He says "xxxx, if you had a paycheck problem you could have come to me... BLAHBLAH chain of command... then on the walk back to my pull, he calls me an ignorant dick for going to his boss.. blah blahh... whatever.

Backstory done. Next, I look at my stubs to see if I was wrong or missed something? He made me feel bad. So I look and see that I was paid 4 hours of ot, I had no ot that week. I was owed 2 hours of straight pay, so he took 4 straight hrs from me, gave me 4 ot hrs, and that gave me my time owed without adding to my total hours worked. That s union members out of hours accrued for insurance?? I look back and he has done this several times. I asked my friends to check theyre checks as well, and they did it to them also. Shouldn't this prick be fired for falsifying documents??

Yes

 

[UPSJedi2112]

I have seen more than one FT sup walked to the gate for fudging numbers. It's an honesty problem for them. UPS likes to make examples of dishonest people.

They've dusted numerous FT and PT sups out of my building for screwing with the numbers.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Ups falsifying documents, thats crazy talk

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[Bottom rung]

Messing with numbers in my building is nothing but job security. When the suits showed up to question people, they only asked people who knew nothing of it. It's a badge of honor that they proudly wear, now that they're gone and thier job is safe. Everyone is happy, suits, center manager, dm.

 

[HBGPreloader]

...It is job security for management.

Or a promotion!

 

[The Other Side]

NOT all supervisors and managers and even Division Managers get away with falsifying numbers.

Just last September, in xxx District, our xxx was "walked out" after getting caught "cookin the books".

This practice has been going on for years and finally, the company actually "canned" somebody for it.

This xxx, a former xxx, former xxx and former xxx working his way down the ladder of success performed a string of illegitimacys and was caught.

I (personally) liked the guy, he was well seasoned and was with UPS for close to 35 years.

He was on the east coast, in the midwest and the Pacific regions.

TOS.


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