I do have my facts straight. The original bill SOPA was co sponsored by ISSA. Not a single one of you mentioned these bills in the house and senate were REPUBLICAN sponsored bills. And now all of you are AGAINST your OWN PARTY!
I love it!
Peace.
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I do have my facts straight. The original bill SOPA was co sponsored by ISSA. Not a single one of you mentioned these bills in the house and senate were REPUBLICAN sponsored bills. And now all of you are AGAINST your OWN PARTY!
I love it!
Peace.
moreluck
golden ticket member
There have been numerous studies already....is he shopping for the one that reports what he wants to hear?
moreluck
golden ticket member
I think it shows WE are against bad ideas no matter who has them........we just can't help it that most of the bad ones come from donkeys!!
klein
Für Meno :)
I need to correct DS, too !
The Whitehouse (Obama) opposes SOPA & PIPA !
But, I must admit, he (Obama), could have gained a lot more great publicity if only he would have brought those above topics up recently much more.
As for the Keystone project, yes, Our PM Harper wasn't very pleased about Obama's decision (Obama called Harper before he went public with his opposition towards it).
But, it's not dead !
According to our news media, Keystone needs to re-apply (changing a few routes thru enviromental sensitive areas), and by the Fall it (the bill), will be back in the Whitehouse. (just in time, after the election).
Yes, Canada sees it as one of those political decisions, and it's just bad timing now.
Also our media reported (as I also mentioned the other day), that the Keystone project is much closer being built then the Enbridge pipeline to the west coast.
Keystone will probably go ahead in 2013, while the Northern Gateway Pipeline 2014 the earliest.
The Whitehouse (Obama) opposes SOPA & PIPA !
But, I must admit, he (Obama), could have gained a lot more great publicity if only he would have brought those above topics up recently much more.
As for the Keystone project, yes, Our PM Harper wasn't very pleased about Obama's decision (Obama called Harper before he went public with his opposition towards it).
But, it's not dead !
According to our news media, Keystone needs to re-apply (changing a few routes thru enviromental sensitive areas), and by the Fall it (the bill), will be back in the Whitehouse. (just in time, after the election).
Yes, Canada sees it as one of those political decisions, and it's just bad timing now.
Also our media reported (as I also mentioned the other day), that the Keystone project is much closer being built then the Enbridge pipeline to the west coast.
Keystone will probably go ahead in 2013, while the Northern Gateway Pipeline 2014 the earliest.
Pirate Bay issued the following press release today. If not for the frat-boys at the Pirate Bay flaunting their activity in the world's face there would be no need for anti piracy legislation, like SOPA. Their press release is random and rambling, but the first 3 paragraphs are interesting - if they're true:
Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person to own the copyright to a motion picture.
Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent. There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.
So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works, without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create. If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing other peoples rules.
The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them). It's all based on the fact that we're competition. We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.
And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech. We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.
The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this: The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence. They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the rest of us obedient consumers. The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that you will stop them, before we all drown.
SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really. To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.
In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.
Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.
THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012
Over a century ago Thomas Edison got the patent for a device which would "do for the eye what the phonograph does for the ear". He called it the Kinetoscope. He was not only amongst the first to record video, he was also the first person to own the copyright to a motion picture.
Because of Edisons patents for the motion pictures it was close to financially impossible to create motion pictures in the North american east coast. The movie studios therefor relocated to California, and founded what we today call Hollywood. The reason was mostly because there was no patent. There was also no copyright to speak of, so the studios could copy old stories and make movies out of them - like Fantasia, one of Disneys biggest hits ever.
So, the whole basis of this industry, that today is screaming about losing control over immaterial rights, is that they circumvented immaterial rights. They copied (or put in their terminology: "stole") other peoples creative works, without paying for it. They did it in order to make a huge profit. Today, they're all successful and most of the studios are on the Fortune 500 list of the richest companies in the world. Congratulations - it's all based on being able to re-use other peoples creative works. And today they hold the rights to what other people create. If you want to get something released, you have to abide to their rules. The ones they created after circumventing other peoples rules.
The reason they are always complainting about "pirates" today is simple. We've done what they did. We circumvented the rules they created and created our own. We crushed their monopoly by giving people something more efficient. We allow people to have direct communication between eachother, circumventing the profitable middle man, that in some cases take over 107% of the profits (yes, you pay to work for them). It's all based on the fact that we're competition. We've proven that their existance in their current form is no longer needed. We're just better than they are.
And the funny part is that our rules are very similar to the founding ideas of the USA. We fight for freedom of speech. We see all people as equal. We believe that the public, not the elite, should rule the nation. We believe that laws should be created to serve the public, not the rich corporations.
The Pirate Bay is truly an international community. The team is spread all over the globe - but we've stayed out of the USA. We have Swedish roots and a swedish friend said this: The word SOPA means "trash" in Swedish. The word PIPA means "a pipe" in Swedish. This is of course not a coincidence. They want to make the internet inte a one way pipe, with them at the top, shoving trash through the pipe down to the rest of us obedient consumers. The public opinion on this matter is clear. Ask anyone on the street and you'll learn that noone wants to be fed with trash. Why the US government want the american people to be fed with trash is beyond our imagination but we hope that you will stop them, before we all drown.
SOPA can't do anything to stop TPB. Worst case we'll change top level domain from our current .org to one of the hundreds of other names that we already also use. In countries where TPB is blocked, China and Saudi Arabia springs to mind, they block hundreds of our domain names. And did it work? Not really. To fix the "problem of piracy" one should go to the source of the problem. The entertainment industry say they're creating "culture" but what they really do is stuff like selling overpriced plushy dolls and making 11 year old girls become anorexic. Either from working in the factories that creates the dolls for basically no salary or by watching movies and tv shows that make them think that they're fat.
In the great Sid Meiers computer game Civilization you can build Wonders of the world. One of the most powerful ones is Hollywood. With that you control all culture and media in the world. Rupert Murdoch was happy with MySpace and had no problems with their own piracy until it failed. Now he's complainting that Google is the biggest source of piracy in the world - because he's jealous. He wants to retain his mind control over people and clearly you'd get a more honest view of things on Wikipedia and Google than on Fox News.
Some facts (years, dates) are probably wrong in this press release. The reason is that we can't access this information when Wikipedia is blacked out. Because of pressure from our failing competitors. We're sorry for that.
THE PIRATE BAY, (K)2012
"Unfortunately Prime Minister Harper of Canada just this week said because of the volatile indecisiveness on the part of this president, that they feel they are being held hostage and they will take their energy elsewhere specifically to Asia and China,"
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Read more: [/FONT]Obama Administration Rejects Keystone Pipeline Permit | Fox News
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]"Volatile indecisiveness". Pretty rough words from the PM and completely true![/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Read more: [/FONT]Obama Administration Rejects Keystone Pipeline Permit | Fox News
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]"Volatile indecisiveness". Pretty rough words from the PM and completely true![/FONT]
klein
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One other of our politicians came out yesterday (I barely catched it, so don't know his name), But he did say this has to stop. This is simpley rediculus that 99% of our oil exports head to the US.
We can't soley reley on the US in that kind of magnitude.
And I must admit, he is totally right ! We need to find other oil importers around the world, rather quicker than later.
We can't soley reley on the US in that kind of magnitude.
And I must admit, he is totally right ! We need to find other oil importers around the world, rather quicker than later.
cachsux
Wah
Did our check clear? Then don't worry about it.
balland chain
Well-Known Member
Has one thought that censorship on the internet is destroying what america stands for ?? Where is the freedom of speech truly free ???
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