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rickyb

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So? You want it both ways. You want to say it's made up of separate countries but then you want to say the population is more. At any rate the EU could dissolve soon because some of the countries don't like paying to prop up other countries who are irresponsible.
were not talking about what ifs, population is more than america and they have free movement across workers across borders

its not europe its the schengen zone which consists of some but not all european countries.

again why does finland and iceland have no homeless drug addicts in the worst neighbourhoods on the streets and meanwhile we are loaded with gang violance and homeless zombie apocalypse? for some reason everything you proposed is easily disproven; drug use, island theory, small population, etc.
 
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vantexan

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were not talking about what ifs, population is more than america and they have free movement across workers across borders

its not europe its the schengen zone which consists of some but not all european countries.

again why does finland and iceland have no homeless drug addicts in the worst neighbourhoods on the streets and meanwhile we are loaded with gang violance and homeless zombie apocalypse? for some reason everything you proposed is easily disproven; drug use, island theory, small population, etc.
You haven't disproven anything. You just say things. The Schengen Zone is most of Europe. And no other continent. Most of those "homeless zombies" you mentioned have drug abuse issues. And our gang violence is mostly in certain neighborhoods of big cities. Again, the two countries you cited have small, homogenous populations. And what exactly are you getting at? Attack on capitalism?
 

vantexan

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You haven't disproven anything. You just say things. The Schengen Zone is most of Europe. And no other continent. Most of those "homeless zombies" you mentioned have drug abuse issues. And our gang violence is mostly in certain neighborhoods of big cities. Again, the two countries you cited have small, homogenous populations. And what exactly are you getting at? Attack on capitalism?
P.S. If the EU dissolves so will the Schengen Zone.
 

rickyb

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You haven't disproven anything. You just say things. The Schengen Zone is most of Europe. And no other continent. Most of those "homeless zombies" you mentioned have drug abuse issues. And our gang violence is mostly in certain neighborhoods of big cities. Again, the two countries you cited have small, homogenous populations. And what exactly are you getting at? Attack on capitalism?
talking about why these countries have no homeless and no dangerous neighbourhoods and we do???
 

vantexan

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talking about why these countries have no homeless and no dangerous neighbourhoods and we do???
Absolutely no homeless? There are numerous countries that have a lower murder rate than the U.S. But if you take out the dangerous neighborhoods of the most dangerous cities the Murder rate in the U.S. would be comparable to the safest countries. You can't paint the U.S. with the same broad brush. We absolutely have drug and violence issues but it's impossible to compare a country this size with much, much smaller countries in a meaningful way.
 

rickyb

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Absolutely no homeless? There are numerous countries that have a lower murder rate than the U.S. But if you take out the dangerous neighborhoods of the most dangerous cities the Murder rate in the U.S. would be comparable to the safest countries. You can't paint the U.S. with the same broad brush. We absolutely have drug and violence issues but it's impossible to compare a country this size with much, much smaller countries in a meaningful way.
Its possible, just compare cities populations and rich countries

Watch youtube videos and see for yourself

Its not drug rates bc finlands and icelands drug use rate is nothing exceptional. Its not the guns either bc many eu countries have normal gun rates but they still have homeless and ghettos
 

vantexan

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Its possible, just compare cities populations and rich countries

Watch youtube videos and see for yourself

Its not drug rates bc finlands and icelands drug use rate is nothing exceptional. Its not the guns either bc many eu countries have normal gun rates but they still have homeless and ghettos
So why are you attacking the U.S.?
 

rickyb

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You seem bent on accusing the U.S. about something comparing it to two small countries. So what's your point?
my point is these countries dont have homeless doing drugs in the streets

do they have gangs in teh streets?

your theory of drug use doesnt hold and neither does the guns although they are probably a part of the problem.
 

rickyb

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my point is these countries dont have homeless doing drugs in the streets

do they have gangs in teh streets?

your theory of drug use doesnt hold and neither does the guns although they are probably a part of the problem.
i saw no gangs in the video.

tomorrow i will watch a gangs of worst neighbourhoods in finland video.
 

vantexan

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my point is these countries dont have homeless doing drugs in the streets

do they have gangs in teh streets?

your theory of drug use doesnt hold and neither does the guns although they are probably a part of the problem.
You keep saying drug use doesn't hold. These neighborhoods in the U.S. are full of drugs. Just saying it doesn't hold makes no sense. You asked why there are slums? Because they are full of drugs and the violence that goes with it. Obviously Iceland and Finland don't have as serious an issue.
 

rickyb

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You keep saying drug use doesn't hold. These neighborhoods in the U.S. are full of drugs. Just saying it doesn't hold makes no sense. You asked why there are slums? Because they are full of drugs and the violence that goes with it. Obviously Iceland and Finland don't have as serious an issue.
it doesnt hold because we know france has ghettos and yet their drug use is comparable to iceland and finland

so you said america would be fine if it werent for the drugs and guns, but im saying thats at best only part of hte problem.

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darker colors are the worst.
 

vantexan

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it doesnt hold because we know france has ghettos and yet their drug use is comparable to iceland and finland

so you said america would be fine if it werent for the drugs and guns, but im saying thats at best only part of hte problem.

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darker colors are the worst.
Exactly, dark colors are the worst. You keep saying drugs and guns don't explain the slums yet the U.S. has the worst drug usage in the world according to your chart. By the way French ghettoes tend to be full of poor immigrant laborers. Also when they made this chart I don't think they included alcohol abuse. If they had Russia and most of the former Soviet Union would be black on the chart.
 

rickyb

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Exactly, dark colors are the worst. You keep saying drugs and guns don't explain the slums yet the U.S. has the worst drug usage in the world according to your chart. By the way French ghettoes tend to be full of poor immigrant laborers. Also when they made this chart I don't think they included alcohol abuse. If they had Russia and most of the former Soviet Union would be black on the chart.
this chart includes alcohol abuse, drugs dont explain the slums because france has slums but same drug use as iceland / finland.
 

vantexan

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this chart includes alcohol abuse, drugs dont explain the slums because france has slums but same drug use as iceland / finland.
You are trying to compare apples to apples but different countries have different cultures, different histories. Small homogenous populations like Iceland and Finland are usually high on the "happiness" scale with various outfits taking polls on that. The U.S. historically had slavery, then segregation of freed slaves, limited opportunities for blacks. People with shared race, ethnicity, culture tend to choose to live with each other over living among those who are very different. Newcomers in large groups do that. The black population does that. Historically in black dominant areas there was limited opportunity. When drugs came along, as well as government policies that tended to break up black families, people got involved in drug distribution and fought each other over the right to distribute in given areas. It's a volatile mix that you don't see in homogenous cultures who have limited exposure to drugs. Thus a person growing up in Iceland will likely grow up with support from family and friends and a community that's very much like him. In a much smaller population you're going to have sameness. In a country the size of the U.S. with a much more diverse population you're going to have more individuality, more anonymity, more animosity, more sensory overload. There isn't a cookie cutter one size fits all so why do we have problems they don't? Now you'll tell me, no, that's not it, you're wrong, I'm right, the U.S. is satanic, demonic, whatever. There's no telling you anything, you already have your mind made up because your "ministers" told you the real reasons why. You just want to hear us admit it and probably want us to say it's because of demonic capitalism and we must bring the system down. Thank goodness there are still enough people who get up every day, go to work, keep the country going. Because people like you are poisoning minds.
 

rickyb

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You are trying to compare apples to apples but different countries have different cultures, different histories. Small homogenous populations like Iceland and Finland are usually high on the "happiness" scale with various outfits taking polls on that. The U.S. historically had slavery, then segregation of freed slaves, limited opportunities for blacks. People with shared race, ethnicity, culture tend to choose to live with each other over living among those who are very different. Newcomers in large groups do that. The black population does that. Historically in black dominant areas there was limited opportunity. When drugs came along, as well as government policies that tended to break up black families, people got involved in drug distribution and fought each other over the right to distribute in given areas. It's a volatile mix that you don't see in homogenous cultures who have limited exposure to drugs. Thus a person growing up in Iceland will likely grow up with support from family and friends and a community that's very much like him. In a much smaller population you're going to have sameness. In a country the size of the U.S. with a much more diverse population you're going to have more individuality, more anonymity, more animosity, more sensory overload. There isn't a cookie cutter one size fits all so why do we have problems they don't? Now you'll tell me, no, that's not it, you're wrong, I'm right, the U.S. is satanic, demonic, whatever. There's no telling you anything, you already have your mind made up because your "ministers" told you the real reasons why. You just want to hear us admit it and probably want us to say it's because of demonic capitalism and we must bring the system down. Thank goodness there are still enough people who get up every day, go to work, keep the country going. Because people like you are poisoning minds.
youre right iceland and finland are high on the happiness scale. and they are 90% white unlike america.

but italy is 90% white and so again your argument doesnt hold.
 
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vantexan

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youre right iceland and finland are high on the happiness scale. and they are 90% white unlike america.

but italy is 90% white and so again your argument doesnt hold.
Italy has 59 million people with the biggest city, Rome, at 2.76 million. What cities in the world that size are you aware of that don't have slums where the poorest live? The whole country of Iceland has less than 400,000. A hallmark of low population areas everywhere is lower crime because people know each other. That holds true in rural America too. And Iceland and Finland are pretty much 100% white. Italy is at least 95-98% white.
 
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