Comedy night for teamster United...

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Your post referred to "solving the pension crisis" not saving UPS participants butts.
UPS already has the "allowance" to pay their withdrawal liability and get out of multi-employer plans.

I was limiting the discussion to UPS employees and retirees. I couldn't care less about anyone else.

 

[BrownBrokeDown]

For UPS employees/retirees? It saved their butts.

It did. It would save all the active and still functioning company's retirees butts too. But the retirees from now defunct companies would quickly find themselves without a pension at all. Not all of them made anywhere close to UPS wages during their lifetimes. So a group of people would be thrust into possibly living on a SS income only.

 

[BrownBrokeDown]

I was limiting the discussion to UPS employees and retirees. I couldn't care less about anyone else.

And that is why you are such a wonderful person

/end sarcasm

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And that is why you are such a wonderful person

/end sarcasm

I agree with him on that part. That's our money! UPS pays a ton of money in pension payments and we are not getting the benefits from it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

And that is why you are such a wonderful person

/end sarcasm

Do you think anyone from YRC cares about you or me?

 

[804brown]

I agree, but Tim needs to come out on SOMETHING and state the specifics of how he would have done ANYTHING differently. Its hard to judge TU when all we get is "HH is crap and I would do better". We need specifics/plans/ideas/something in order to actually make an informed decision.

Specific plans are coming. Some he has already spoken about. He constantly speaks of his record in Local 804 and his tactics. Tim consistently talks of his plans to focus heavily on organizing as the key to a stronger union since that is where he comes from. He can't speak about hypotheticals but he can speak of his approach that has worked for him in Local 804.
So far Tim has laid out the problems and who hasn't addressed them in 16 years in office. Further, he is laying out a template for how he and his E/B promised a 10 point plan of action and how they implemented that plan over the 6 years. What he is saying is he makes promises and keeps them.

 

[Inthegame]

I was limiting the discussion to UPS employees and retirees. I couldn't care less about anyone else.

Be honest. You were limiting the discussion to you. You couldn't care less if everyone else including UPS employees and retirees got nothing.

 

[wide load]

I understand. But Tim was not in the room when these deals were made. I'm sure the whole Amazon thing was a factor but I hope if Tim is ever in that situation and thought it necessary, that he would get AT LEAST SOMETHING for that major concession off the bat. Hall did not.

You don't know what happened in that room nor does Tim. Its so easy to throw stones from the bleachers.

 

[Lead Belly]

Anyone know how the show went? Any more H people harassing members?

I think the last laugh was on Tim the fat boy when he got his ass beat when his own members decided he needed to go back and clean toilets. He got flushed.

 

[brownmonster]

I think the last laugh was on Tim the fat boy when he got his ass beat when his own members decided he needed to go back and clean toilets. He got flushed.

It's almost as if you a relishing the fact that he lost.