Driver Seniority vs PT Seniority

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by PTPunchingBag, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. PTPunchingBag

    PTPunchingBag Member

    I have more seniority than like 5 drivers in my hub. I’ve heard many things such as if you go from PT to driver, you’re back to bottom guy, but I’ve also heard if you go from PT to Driver, you’ll have more seniority than drivers who started after you so you can bounce them off their routes or get one before they do. Which one is the real one or is it based on your local?
  2. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Contract covers your situation very clearly. Your PT seniority does not follow you to a FT classification. You will go to the bottom of the seniority list. You will have more vacation time, but that is it.
  3. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    And every time a person that you have more seniority than becomes a driver you fall further and further down the ft seniority list. Become a driverrrrrrr!
  4. DriverNerd

    DriverNerd Active Member

    Going to be funny when you get to pick 6 weeks of vacation, but the only thing left is February and October.
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  5. Wally

    Wally BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns

    We go to the bottom of new center seniority.
  6. eats packages

    eats packages narrow lane

    There is such thing as "building seniority" but it only really applies to some form of catastrophic layoff event where someone with 2 years PT seniority could outlive a rookie driver with 1 year FT seniority by a series of bumps.

    The union of course would never allow the company to layoff so many FT employees that this actually becomes a problem for anybody that was not recently hired off the streets.
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  7. Turdferguson

    Turdferguson Just a turd

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  8. Northbaypkg

    Northbaypkg 20 NDA stops daily

    ^^This. I waited 14 years to become a driver, while others with less seniority took the plunge much sooner. Your building seniority remains the same, but your full time seniority starts all over. If you know you eventually want to drive, do it as soon as you can. For me I was going to community college and didn't plan on making UPS my career and passed on the opportunity. I messed around too much in college and ended up falling back on UPS as a career. Truth be told I was lucky to have such a fantastic option. But still, all those other guys that I had more building seniority than? They were way higher up on the full time seniority list by the time I became a driver.

    I found myself going through the same issues that the poster above mentions. A lot of vacation weeks, but crappy options to choose from at first. July and August is usually all blacked out in your first years. The selections get better year after year though. For me seven years in there were only six weeks blacked out for this year's vacation selection, including the coveted July 4th and Thanksgiving weeks.
  9. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Well-Known Member

    On my building-wide full-time seniority list, there are about 15-20 people, drivers and combo jobs, ahead of me who started after me.

    That's how it works.
  10. PTPunchingBag

    PTPunchingBag Member

    Can’t, I’m 19
  11. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Then wait til your 21 and do it. Making 6 figures at 25 would be pretty nice.
  12. Sweeper

    Sweeper Where’s the broom?

    The trick is to get on the F/T list the first chance you can. Long term, you want to try to avoid having anyone senior to you that is younger than you. This will give you better selections for the duration of your F/T career.
  13. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    That is horrible advice to a youngster. Lol
    If the OP has any ambition and smarts, get out of UPS and do something with their life.
  14. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Very few weeks fill up here now that they let people split 2 weeks.

    November fills up for hunting and then random weeks. That’s it.
  15. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    That’s one person’s opinion. If your ambition is to make a lot of money then ups is a decent place to do that.
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    If all you want to do is make a lot of money UPS is the place to do it. Until you get injured or have too many accidents. Or want a life away from work. I work with PT air drivers who normally work 10 to 13 hours a day at top driver rate.
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  17. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    PTers are the bottom of the barrel.
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  18. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Always have been.
  19. WorkinLateHuh

    WorkinLateHuh Active Member

    i have 12 years seniority and getting February is always very difficult. It sucks, cause Feb works great for me
  20. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    Its a job to fall back on if you fail in life. Lets not over glorify what it is. Of course if you go the management route and eventually get out of operations and find a good paying skilled niche that's a bit different.
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