Election 2016

[newfie]

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these types of misrepresented charts about Obama are all over the place.

with this one for instance

1) there was language in the original Obamacare package where life saving health care could have been denied to those who panels determined did not have a high expectancy for living.

2) gun seizures do occur and Obama has tried but been rebuffed at efforts to increase them.

3) Sharia law - many muslims here want to impose it or take the position that sharia law takes precedence over the law of the land. If no one would ever protest the imposition of said laws then at some part you could find it has been imposed. I don't know if anyone of any standing on the right has ever seriously advocated that Obama supports Sharia law but there is no doubt that Obama has shown a desire to support the muslim cause much more then what you would expect from an alleged Christian president. if you don't draw the line in the sand and ensure he knows that Sharia law is totally unacceptable then who knows where the muslim nut jobs and their liberal supporters would take this.

4) 7 a gallon gas - we forget the many days of high gas prices under Obama?

5) skyrocketing inflation - why Because Obama spends money and prints money at a rate that is twice all previous presidents? no worry there this country's growth is so anemic . no only is inflation in an Obama economy not a concern neither is the hope of anyone's wages ever increasing.

6) Fema concentration camps - yea ok really? reverse hysteria from the left.

7) another 9/11 attack - as evidenced by the many terrorist attacks here its safe to say that Obama and his administration has degraded our national security.

 

[Sportello]

@tieguy, you are very gullible, and a bit insane.

 

[newfie]

you own the insanity. I could never hope to compete.

 

[Sportello]

All seven of your points are not reality based, but the stuff of conspiracies designed to convince the ignorant and gullible.

 

[newfie]

All seven of your points are not reality based, but the stuff of conspiracies designed to convince the ignorant and gullible.

created by the liberals and debunked by me. you have anything of value to post today?

 

[newfie]

created by the liberals and debunked by me. you have anything of value to post today?

sorry I forgot who I was speaking with. value not expected

 

[Sportello]

created by the liberals and debunked by me. you have anything of value to post today?

@tieguy, don't let facts get in the way.

For example, the current inflation rate in the US is .8%, considerably lower than anytime in the last 50 years.

Nice job of 'debunking' anything other than your credibility.

 

[newfie]

weakest recovery in history. not sure why you would expect an inflation rate to be any higher the the the super weak GDP

don't let the facts ruin your narrative.

 

[Sportello]

weakest recovery in history. not sure why you would expect an inflation rate to be any higher the the the super weak GDP

don't let the facts ruin your narrative.

@tieguy, I'm not sure why you would claim

5) skyrocketing inflation

as one of your phony points.

How is our GDP compared to the rest of the world? Compared to Russia or China?

Don't let facts ruin your narrative.

 

[The Other Side]

these types of misrepresented charts about Obama are all over the place.

with this one for instance

1) there was language in the original Obamacare package where life saving health care could have been denied to those who panels determined did not have a high expectancy for living.

2) gun seizures do occur and Obama has tried but been rebuffed at efforts to increase them.

3) Sharia law - many muslims here want to impose it or take the position that sharia law takes precedence over the law of the land. If no one would ever protest the imposition of said laws then at some part you could find it has been imposed. I don't know if anyone of any standing on the right has ever seriously advocated that Obama supports Sharia law but there is no doubt that Obama has shown a desire to support the muslim cause much more then what you would expect from an alleged Christian president. if you don't draw the line in the sand and ensure he knows that Sharia law is totally unacceptable then who knows where the muslim nut jobs and their liberal supporters would take this.

4) 7 a gallon gas - we forget the many days of high gas prices under Obama?

5) skyrocketing inflation - why Because Obama spends money and prints money at a rate that is twice all previous presidents? no worry there this country's growth is so anemic . no only is inflation in an Obama economy not a concern neither is the hope of anyone's wages ever increasing.

6) Fema concentration camps - yea ok really? reverse hysteria from the left.

7) another 9/11 attack - as evidenced by the many terrorist attacks here its safe to say that Obama and his administration has degraded our national security.

Talk about Loonacy...

Its amazing how this kind of stuff can occupy a persons brain as "legitimate" information.

The power of suggestion has all but dumbed down the republican voters. FACTS no longer mean anything, just a suggestion is all it takes to control the thought process of an otherwise normal person.

Its a sad thing to watch, the dumbing down of America through the power of suggestion, but its a reality that can only occur when people dont challenge what they are hearing.

TOS.

 

[The Other Side]

weakest recovery in history. not sure why you would expect an inflation rate to be any higher the the the super weak GDP

don't let the facts ruin your narrative.

Weakest recovery?

AS if we can compare present day american economics with that of the 20's, 30's 40's or any other decade.

We CANT recover if we dont MAKE anything.

Service industry jobs are NEVER going to bring about 5% GDP growth as in the past. Get used to it bub, 2 to 3% GDP growth is here to stay until we start making things again in this country.

You can blame your buddies in the GOP congress and senate.

From exporting jobs and companies to importing guest workers...

A two fold attack on YOU, your CHILDREN and Grandchildrens ability to find a CAREER or a GOOD PAYING MIDDLE CLASS JOB.

Blame yourself, you keep voting for the party that has attacked the american worker and the middle class of this country with direct hits to the foundation of middle America.

TOS.

 

[Babagounj]

Weakest recovery?
Service industry jobs are NEVER going to bring about 5% GDP growth as in the past. Get used to it bub, 2 to 3% GDP growth is here to stay until we start making things again in this country.
Blame yourself, you keep voting for the party that has attacked the american worker and the middle class of this country with direct hits to the foundation of middle America.

TOS.

Let's see it's a democrat that now wants to ban gunsmiths in the USA by imposing them with $25,000 fees just to do their craft .
That will really help the economy.
While this same democrat has basically shut down the coal industry resulting in massive unemployment.
While in Calif.
Subsidized Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System has reduced its rate of incinerating wild birds from 10 to 2 per hour.
The 400-megawatt facility, a joint-venture between NRG Energy, Google and BrightSource Energy cost $2.2 billion to build, but was subsidized with an Obama administration $1.6 billion federal loan guarantee.
Under SB 871, Northern California’s PG&E utility is forced to pay a premium price of $57 a megawatt hour for solar power, versus $35 a megawatt hour for electricity produced from natural gas.
Ivanpah is not efficient at producing electrical power, but it turned out to be first-in-class at slaughtering about 28,000 wild birds in its first year. With the facility only operating an average of about 8 hours per day, Ivanpah was killing about 10 birds an hour. Workmen referred to birds that flew through the “death-ray” light beams as “streamers,” because they ignited in midair like a comets, and then plummeted to the ground trailing smoke.

 

[The Other Side]

Your wo

Let's see it's a democrat that now wants to ban gunsmiths in the USA by imposing them with $25,000 fees just to do their craft .
That will really help the economy.
While this same democrat has basically shut down the coal industry resulting in massive unemployment.
While in Calif.
Subsidized Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System has reduced its rate of incinerating wild birds from 10 to 2 per hour.
The 400-megawatt facility, a joint-venture between NRG Energy, Google and BrightSource Energy cost $2.2 billion to build, but was subsidized with an Obama administration $1.6 billion federal loan guarantee.
Under SB 871, Northern California’s PG&E utility is forced to pay a premium price of $57 a megawatt hour for solar power, versus $35 a megawatt hour for electricity produced from natural gas.
Ivanpah is not efficient at producing electrical power, but it turned out to be first-in-class at slaughtering about 28,000 wild birds in its first year. With the facility only operating an average of about 8 hours per day, Ivanpah was killing about 10 birds an hour. Workmen referred to birds that flew through the “death-ray” light beams as “streamers,” because they ignited in midair like a comets, and then plummeted to the ground trailing smoke.

Youre worried about killing birds with something that is manufactured? While not concerning yourself with the thousands of PEOPLE killed by guns in this country?

Somehow, you have your priorities backwards..

But then again, your another victim of the suggestion right wing media.

TOS.

 

[moreluck]

The dumbing down was when Pelosi said "we have to pass it before we can know what's in it....." All the Democrats fell for that line !!!

 

[newfie]

Talk about Loonacy...

Its amazing how this kind of stuff can occupy a persons brain as "legitimate" information.

The power of suggestion has all but dumbed down the republican voters. FACTS no longer mean anything, just a suggestion is all it takes to control the thought process of an otherwise normal person.

Its a sad thing to watch, the dumbing down of America through the power of suggestion, but its a reality that can only occur when people dont challenge what they are hearing.

TOS.

yet you are unable to provide a meaningful rebuttal.

 

[newfie]

Blame yourself, you keep voting for the party that has attacked the american worker and the middle class of this country with direct hits to the foundation of middle America.

TOS.

I didn't vote for Obama , you have me confused with some idiot liberal

 

[The Other Side]

yet you are unable to provide a meaningful rebuttal.

You cant refute GARBAGE...

We can only kick it to the curb, unfortunately, you would pick it back up and bring it back into the house..

TOS.

 

[The Other Side]

I didn't vote for Obama , you have me confused with some idiot liberal

Changing the facts of what was said again?

It was clear, people like YOU, you know the ones, the ones that want to scream the loudest on issues, only failing to realize they are part of the problem and not the solution..

You want less mexicans in the country, but vote for the republicans who keep INCREASING the number of guest workers into this country that overstay the visas and never leave....

But you are TIRED of paying for them?? Really?

You keep voting for the people that bring them into the country by the tens of thousands so you dont have a LEG to stand on. You can keep blabbing on and on about how you care about this country, but in reality, you are a part of the reason its failing.

Thanks.

TOS.

 

[Babagounj]

So TOS , What are you doing to stop this country from failing ?

Insulting other people ?

How about going to Chicago and removing the guns from the criminals ? Or Baltimore or Detroit ?
All Democratically controlled cities.

 

[newfie]

Changing the facts of what was said again?

It was clear, people like YOU, you know the ones, the ones that want to scream the loudest on issues, only failing to realize they are part of the problem and not the solution..

You want less mexicans in the country, but vote for the republicans who keep INCREASING the number of guest workers into this country that overstay the visas and never leave....

But you are TIRED of paying for them?? Really?

You keep voting for the people that bring them into the country by the tens of thousands so you dont have a LEG to stand on. You can keep blabbing on and on about how you care about this country, but in reality, you are a part of the reason its failing.

Thanks.

TOS.

a) you don't know who I voted for

b) how can anyone promoting someone as dishonest as Hillary possibly question anyone I have supported.