EV's Won't Happen

vantexan

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The push for electric vehicles is only about controlling your mobility. Force you onto the grid which can be turned on and off on a whim. The elites want driving a car to be a privilege reserved only for them. They want to take everything from us, especially cars. A gas powered car gives you the ability to go anywhere you please. They don’t like that. Their lies about emissions and climate are as transparent as they are dishonest
The elites make their money off economic activity. Limiting everyone's ability to move around will put a crimp in economic activity. The rich and powerful won't stand for that very long. There are ideologues that push this extreme vision of society but most will never accept it. You're caught up in the hype. The reality is very different.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
The push for electric vehicles is only about controlling your mobility. Force you onto the grid which can be turned on and off on a whim. The elites want driving a car to be a privilege reserved only for them. They want to take everything from us, especially cars. A gas powered car gives you the ability to go anywhere you please. They don’t like that. Their lies about emissions and climate are as transparent as they are dishonest
$180,000 for a vehicle that only goes 52 miles.
 

TheDudeAbides92

Well-Known Member
The elites make their money off economic activity. Limiting everyone's ability to move around will put a crimp in economic activity. The rich and powerful won't stand for that very long. There are ideologues that push this extreme vision of society but most will never accept it. You're caught up in the hype. The reality is very different.
Most people will accept anything the CONvid 1984 showed that in spades.
 

bacha29

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Coal is the fuel of the future. After all this other BS (nuclear, EV, wind, hydrogen, etc.) dies down after people realize it's all too expensive and unreliable-- we will revert back to a cleaner coal a couple generations from now. There is just too much of it available (cheaply) to ignore.
Coal is the second most expensive electricity generation fuel behind diesel and we've been trying for decades to clean it up enough to meet clean air requirements. And all this nonsense regarding property post surface mine site reclamation....forget it. It's impossible to survey accurately because the landmarks are all gone and the elevation has changed. The ground is so acidic and so badly disturbed that it's impossible to grow competitive yields on it and because the ground table has been destroyed there isn't a drop of water to be found under it anywhere.
 

No1 Special

Long time listener, first time caller.
The ground is so acidic and so badly disturbed that it's impossible to grow competitive yields on it and because the ground table has been destroyed there isn't a drop of water to be found under it anywhere.
Sounds like the perfect place for wind turbines and solar, instead of good productive farmland. Thousands of acres of very good farmland have been taken over for green energy.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
Sounds like the perfect place for wind turbines and solar, instead of good productive farmland. Thousands of acres of very good farmland have been taken over for green energy.
Sounds like a good place to raise chickens so we can get the price of eggs back down to 69 cents a dozen like they were just a few months ago at Aldis.
 
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bacha29

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Sounds like the perfect place for wind turbines and solar, instead of good productive farmland. Thousands of acres of very good farmland have been taken over for green energy.
I live in strip mine country. There is a proposed solar plant a few miles out the road. The neighborhood out there bitterly opposed to it pointing to the fact that the proposed site is a parcel of what little farm land remaining that hasn't already been torn up and destroyed by strip mining.

That wasn't the case during the coal boom years following the Arab oil embargo. Everywhere you looked you saw a dragline.
Now every year there are thousands of acres of worthless back filled strip ground up for tax sale. The coal stripper's lease on the property has ended leaving the owner stuck with a mess on his hands, no longer generating income so naturally he quits paying the taxes on it cheating the county township and school district but nobody in their right mind will bid on it.
 

vantexan

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I live in strip mine country. There is a proposed solar plant a few miles out the road. The neighborhood out there bitterly opposed to it pointing to the fact that the proposed site is a parcel of what little farm land remaining that hasn't already been torn up and destroyed by strip mining.

That wasn't the case during the coal boom years following the Arab oil embargo. Everywhere you looked you saw a dragline.
Now every year there are thousands of acres of worthless back filled strip ground up for tax sale. The coal stripper's lease on the property has ended leaving the owner stuck with a mess on his hands, no longer generating income so naturally he quits paying the taxes on it cheating the county township and school district but nobody in their right mind will bid on it.
What's funny is putting a solar plant in an area that's cloudy much of if not most of the time. Has failed everywhere it has been tried in such areas in Europe.
 

bacha29

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There's a power plant out the road from me., built in 1954 Originally coal fired burning more than 6000 tons of coal a day. About 10 years ago it switched to nat gas. The workforce went from 90 to about a dozen and it only runs when the grid needs the power and that's not often.

The generating capacity is there the question is which fuel source will be used to generate it? The big humongous labor intensive base load coal plants will continue to operate but have and will slowly continue to be replaced with smaller, more numerous cheap to operate clean fuel power plants.

As for EV's say what you what about them but their fate like everything else will depend on whether or not the investment money keeps coming their way.
 

bacha29

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What's funny is putting a solar plant in an area that's cloudy much of if not most of the time. Has failed everywhere it has been tried in such areas in Europe.
Permit applications for 4 new solar plants in my county alone have been filed. They are cheap to build , requires very little manpower to operate and easy to disassemble and move elsewhere if needed.

As more electricity markets become deregulated and mine is one of them the winner will be the vendor that has become the best at serving that market .
 

TheDudeAbides92

Well-Known Member
No, some people will believe anything told to them by conspiracy theorists.
I don’t theorize I only deal in facts. Fact is thousands have had injuries and deaths from a false vaccine that nobody needed and most were coerced into taking. The climate change narrative is being used to steal everything from us
 
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vantexan

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I don’t theorize I only deal in facts. Fact is thousands have had injuries and deaths from a false vaccine that nobody needed and most were coerced into taking. The climate change narrative is being used to steal everything from us
How much have you had stolen from you? Most weren't coerced into taking the vaccine although some were over their jobs. Not defending the vaccines, just pointing out that a lot of this is hype. Both sides are guilty of it.
 

vantexan

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Permit applications for 4 new solar plants in my county alone have been filed. They are cheap to build , requires very little manpower to operate and easy to disassemble and move elsewhere if needed.

As more electricity markets become deregulated and mine is one of them the winner will be the vendor that has become the best at serving that market .
I hope it works out. But as Germany has learned solar panels work much better in a sunny climate.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
How much have you had stolen from you? Most weren't coerced into taking the vaccine although some were over their jobs. Not defending the vaccines, just pointing out that a lot of this is hype. Both sides are guilty of it.
They’re stealing our wealth with this climate hoax. They’re bringing down our standard of living here in America with this BS.
 

newolddude

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I hope it works out. But as Germany has learned solar panels work much better in a sunny climate.
They do?



 
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