Excess Deaths Redux

trickpony1

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So the voting base is shrinking ?
Probably not.
The people coming across the border are probably being romanced/brain washed/pimped into voting Democrat.

Certain ethnic groups already in the US traditionally vote Democrat and they probably can't tell you why.

The America we once knew is being pimped out.

Sadly helping.
 

rickyb

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Of course they do.
aldous huxley said the truth is a needle in a haystack
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rickyb

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Probably not.
The people coming across the border are probably being romanced/brain washed/pimped into voting Democrat.

Certain ethnic groups already in the US traditionally vote Democrat and they probably can't tell you why.

The America we once knew is being pimped out.

Sadly helping.
do you know why you vote republican?

are they not obviously corrupt enough for you?
 

Mutineer

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From it's beginning, issues surrounding covid have been very politically polarized.

As if this wasn't problematic enough, the unhinged lunacy from members of both political parties further obscured the truth. And I do believe that for 99.99% of us, the truth surrounding covid and the vaccines is unknowable.

For an ordinary citizen, the ability to navigate in order to separate fact from fiction is impossible.

So far in my observations, nobody I personally know who got vaxed has dropped dead or suddenly developed heart issues.

Also, nobody I personally know who tested + for covid and displayed symptoms has dropped dead or had to be hospitalized. This includes people who are poster-children for covid mortality.

I am very open to the possibility that my observations surrounding covid are not written in stone and may change.

As has been very typical of the incessant noise that celebrities, politicians, news media, and all their shills spout at me; my reality and experiences only very rarely resembles their narrative.

The only relatable, observable, somewhat accurate and truthful news I have ever experienced in my entire life has been from my local obituaries (yep, he dead), crime log (yep, he in jail again) and weather forecast (yep, it's nice/not nice outside.)
 

vantexan

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From it's beginning, issues surrounding covid have been very politically polarized.

As if this wasn't problematic enough, the unhinged lunacy from members of both political parties further obscured the truth. And I do believe that for 99.99% of us, the truth surrounding covid and the vaccines is unknowable.

For an ordinary citizen, the ability to navigate in order to separate fact from fiction is impossible.

So far in my observations, nobody I personally know who got vaxed has dropped dead or suddenly developed heart issues.

Also, nobody I personally know who tested + for covid and displayed symptoms has dropped dead or had to be hospitalized. This includes people who are poster-children for covid mortality.

I am very open to the possibility that my observations surrounding covid are not written in stone and may change.

As has been very typical of the incessant noise that celebrities, politicians, news media, and all their shills spout at me; my reality and experiences only very rarely resembles their narrative.

The only relatable, observable, somewhat accurate and truthful news I have ever experienced in my entire life has been from my local obituaries (yep, he dead), crime log (yep, he in jail again) and weather forecast (yep, it's nice/not nice outside.)
But this isn't dropping dead from Covid. In the last year more people are dying from non-covid related issues than what was the average pre-pandemic. And quite a few were healthy young adults who suddenly just collapsed and died. The common denominator appears to be the vaccines, but Dr. Campbell in his videos can't directly say that or YouTube will shut him down. If you Google it you'll see articles about this outside Western nations too, like India. Hopefully, if it is the vaccines, as we get further away from when immunized these cases will stop. If we continue to see excess deaths 20-30% higher than pre-Covid norms then at some point it will be a huge concern that will have to be addressed.
 

Mutineer

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In the last year more people are dying from non-covid related issues

If this is true, then of what exactly? Is drugs, (esp. fentanyl) alcohol, and suicide a part of those numbers?
And quite a few were healthy young adults who suddenly just collapsed and died.

30+ years ago I have known one person in my life (18 yo) who fit that description. Family said: "brain aneurysm." And I have no reason not to believe it. This is still more people that I personally know who have been vaxed, and suddenly died.
If we continue to see excess deaths 20-30% higher than pre-Covid norms

No question that people I personally know have definitely been dying at a faster rate than before covid and the vaccines. They have died of drugs, alcohol, and suicide. Those three causes have been much more common than before.

YMMV.
 

Mutineer

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do you know why you vote republican?

are they not obviously corrupt enough for you?

In yer own country, and involving those of yer own preferred political leanings, is there not enough corruption for you to take notice of or to bother bringing up?
 

vantexan

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If this is true, then of what exactly? Is drugs, (esp. fentanyl) alcohol, and suicide a part of those numbers?


30+ years ago I have known one person in my life (18 yo) who fit that description. Family said: "brain aneurysm." And I have no reason not to believe it. This is still more people that I personally know who have been vaxed, and suddenly died.


No question that people I personally know have definitely been dying at a faster rate than before covid and the vaccines. They have died of drugs, alcohol, and suicide. Those three causes have been much more common than before.

YMMV.
No, this is another animal altogether.
 

vantexan

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That is not impossible. In the meantime, observe your own surroundings and people you know. Does it fit the narrative of what these people are claiming?

Resist the urge to "force fit."
Someone just posted about a soccer playing dropping dead. In no way am I saying people are dropping right and left in front of us. But there has been an increase in deaths since the pandemic that aren't Covid related. Happening all over the world. These are government stats that are kept and have always been kept, at least for many decades. For example the government detects things like cancer "hotspots" or "clusters". If a particular area records a much higher rate of cancer deaths in a given area they look for root causes that might explain it and be dealt with. A prime example was the DuPont plant in West Virginia that was dumping chemicals that got into the water supply and caused a lot of cancer deaths. The very real truth of the Covid vaccines is that tens of thousands of adverse reactions have been recorded on the VAERS CDC website including many deaths. Other drugs when going through the testing phase are quickly pulled if they cause a few deaths and those trials last many years. These vaccines were rushed through. Only stands to reason if there's a problem they should be closely examined. Especially when the vaccines were touted as safe and effective and have not turned out like they claimed.
 

100%

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Someone just posted about a soccer playing dropping dead. In no way am I saying people are dropping right and left in front of us. But there has been an increase in deaths since the pandemic that aren't Covid related. Happening all over the world. These are government stats that are kept and have always been kept, at least for many decades. For example the government detects things like cancer "hotspots" or "clusters". If a particular area records a much higher rate of cancer deaths in a given area they look for root causes that might explain it and be dealt with. A prime example was the DuPont plant in West Virginia that was dumping chemicals that got into the water supply and caused a lot of cancer deaths. The very real truth of the Covid vaccines is that tens of thousands of adverse reactions have been recorded on the VAERS CDC website including many deaths. Other drugs when going through the testing phase are quickly pulled if they cause a few deaths and those trials last many years. These vaccines were rushed through. Only stands to reason if there's a problem they should be closely examined. Especially when the vaccines were touted as safe and effective and have not turned out like they claimed.
The fact that they won’t even acknowledge it, is an admission of guilt.
 

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Someone just posted about a soccer playing dropping dead. In no way am I saying people are dropping right and left in front of us. But there has been an increase in deaths since the pandemic that aren't Covid related. Happening all over the world.
Heart disease is a thing.
 
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