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Give me your best evidence that would lead investigators to point the finger at the Covid vaccines.
Excess Deaths Redux
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newolddude
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Do you have numbers that show that vaccinated young people are dying at a rapidly increasing rate?
There are numerous reports of young healthy adults dropping dead all over the world. I'll assume they were vaccinated as most in the West were and it wouldn't make sense that it was the unvaccinated as what then would be the common denominator?
Thebrownblob
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BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
CDC..
(This is not"numerous")
- 5-11 years: 23 verified reports of myocarditis after 23,268,672 doses administered
- 12-15 years: 374 verified reports of myocarditis after 25,849,138 doses administered
- 16-17 years: 316 verified reports of myocarditis after 14,144,867 doses administered
- As the COVID-19 vaccines are authorized for younger children, CDC and FDA will continue to monitor for and evaluate reports of myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination and will share more information as it becomes available. Learn more about myocarditis and pericarditis, including clinical considerations, after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination.
- Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. More than 670 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through February 8, 2023. During this time, VAERS received 19,224 preliminary reports of death (0.0029%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA clinicians review reports of death to VAERS including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records. Continued monitoring has identified nine deaths causally associated with J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccination. CDC and FDA continue to review reports of death following COVID-19 vaccinatio
newolddude
Well-Known Member
So you have no proof: just...stories.
News reports.
And yet in much of the world we're experiencing an increase in deaths considerably higher than pre-pandemic averages. And keep having reports of young, healthy adults dropping dead. I don't believe those are counted in the above stats.
Mutineer
Well-Known Member
Did you notice an increase in death among (healthy or otherwise) people due to covid among people you know?
Me either. Because covid was all grossly exaggerated hysteria.
Any people you know who got vaxed and developed or suddenly die of heart issues?
Me either.
Not yet, anyways.
I'm not sure you're understanding this. Before the pandemic there were so many deaths per thousand average. Since the pandemic non-covid related deaths, the kind that were typical before the pandemic, have gone up. In some countries dramatically. The questions are what is causing it and why? This isn't rumor or conspiracy. Government stats on reported deaths.
Mutineer
Well-Known Member
Drugs, alcohol, suicide, and delayed preventative health care due to the era of covid lockdown hysteria.
Wait 'till the liberals think up a global warming lockdown. That is, except for essential services such as Burning, Looting, and Murdering.
Not those kinds of deaths.
Up over 1000% in one year is a thing? Is it like RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA
Edit: average age of 24 years old has and never was “a thing”.
Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
Clinical considerations for myocarditis and pericarditis after receipt of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines among adolescents and young adults.
www.cdc.gov
newolddude
Well-Known Member
Links please.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Believe what you want. We all get to do that.
Now, add what you believe to the numbers the CDC has officially stated. What is the "numerous" and "considerably" higher increase in deaths from your thoughts?
newolddude
Well-Known Member
Do you have those numbers?
How many of the young that dropped dead were vaxxed but never had COVID?
How many were vaxxed but had COVID?
How many many of the young people dying young were not vaxxed and never had COVID?
And don't forget heredity. So many health issues are passed down from one generation to the next. And available treatments and their success are often limited .
As for the COVID vaccines. I got all the injections including the boosters. The results? No COVID. Side effects? Outside of feeling a bit lethargic for a day.....nothing. I trusted the science and the science served me very well.
trickpony1
Well-Known Member
You can trust science and the tooth fairy all you want.
Unless, and until, you have full and complete control of your immune system don't be surprised what happens when you get these injections.
Immune system: "hey, what's this unrecognized substance(s) that just got injected into our body?"
Immune system homie: "man....I don't know, so we must attack it."
Moral of the story: Guillain Barre Syndrome and other "unknown" maladies.
Serendipitously helping.
