Family Values

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by fact check, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. fact check

    fact check New Member

  2. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Yikes, they're so stupid. How can they not just assume the mic is always on? (Cuz it is!)
  3. fethrs

    fethrs Well-Known Member

    Britney Spears mic'd up. Not pretty (sorry Jennie).There is another clip of her singing and it sounds really, really bad but I can't find the link.
  4. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Ouch, that is bad!
  5. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    yea thats about as seedy as anything I've seen. I wonder if we could get the guy to write a book of his memoirs:happy-very:
  6. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Did someone say they wanted to talk about sexual misconduct?
  7. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Its amazing how short memories are on behalf of republicans on this board when it comes to sexual misconduct.

    On one hand, they constantly bring up bill clinton, yet zip their collective lips when it comes to republican hypocrites to do WORSE acts of misconduct.

    Why dont you republican "moral" soldiers post about Newt gingrich's many affairs on his wife? Why not Mark Foley? What about GOv sanford?

    The list is endless for the republicans.

    The best you have to offer us democrats is Bill Clinton.

    What do they say about throwing stones??

    Get a clue folks.


    (09-10) 04:00 PDT Sacramento - -- An Orange County Republican resigned from the Assembly Wednesday after a videotape surfaced of the lawmaker bragging about his sexual exploits with two women, one of whom reportedly is a lobbyist.

    Assemblyman Mike Duvall, R-Yorba Linda, resigned soon after Assembly Speaker Karen Bass, D-Baldwin Vista (Los Angele County) stripped him of his committee assignments and ordered an Ethics Committee investigation of the two-term lawmaker.
    Duvall was recorded making lurid comments during an Appropriations Committee hearing in July when he apparently thought his microphone was turned off. The meetings are regularly recorded and archived by the Assembly.
    Shortly after his resignation, Duvall released a statement saying he was "deeply saddened" that his comments had become a distraction to other members of the Assembly.
    "I have come to the conclusion that it would not be fair to my family, my constituents or to my friends on both sides of the aisle to remain in office," said Duvall, a second-term Assemblyman who is married and has two children.
    In the video, first broadcast by KCAL television in Los Angeles Tuesday night, Duvall talks with a Republican colleague about his sexual activity with two women, one of whom lobbies for Sempra Energy, a San Diego utility, according to other media reports. That company often has business before the Assembly Utilities and Commerce Committee. Duvall was vice chairman of the committee until his removal Wednesday.
    In the recording, Duvall bragged about having several sexual encounters with the women. At one point he makes explicit comments about their sexual activity, adding: "So, I am getting into spanking her. Yeah, I like it. I like spanking her. She goes, 'I know you like spanking me.' I said, 'Yeah, because you're such a bad girl!' "
    Duvall made the comments to Assemblyman Jeff Miller, R-Corona (Riverside County), also a member of the Assembly Ethics Committee. Miller said he "really wasn't paying attention" to what Duvall was saying and did not alert the Ethics Committee about it. A spokeswoman for Bass said Miller will be removed from the Ethics Committee.
    Bass said the ethics investigation would proceed even though Duvall resigned his office. "The resignation does not remove the responsibility of the Assembly Ethics Committee from reviewing the matter," Bass said. She said she had met with Duvall and said he was "remorseful and regretful."
    Sempra Energy released a statement saying company officials were investigating the matter but said the lobbyist employed by the company has denied the "speculative media reports."
    "Our investigation will be conducted to ensure not only that our policies on employee conduct are strictly adhered to, but also that our employee is treated fairly," the statement said.
    Duvall's Republican colleagues stopped short of condemning him for his actions.
    "Mr. Duvall recognized his inappropriate comments would be an endless source of distraction for this institution and out of respect for his colleagues and love for his family decided to resign," said Assembly Minority Leader Sam Blakeslee, R-San Luis Obispo, adding that he respects Duvall's decision "to put his family first at this difficult time."
    Miller called the situation, "An unfortunate circumstance for Mike."
    Besides the utilities committee, Duvall was also a member of the Rules Committee. Prior to joining the Legislature in 2006, Duvall was a Yorba Linda city councilman and was twice elected mayor by his colleagues while on the council. He also was president of the Yorba Linda Chamber of Commerce and was awarded the Ethics in America award in 2000 by Chapman University for his "demonstration of the highest standards of ethical integrity," according to his campaign Web site.
    Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has 14 days to call a special election to fill Duvall's seat, which would be either Nov. 3 or Dec. 1, depending on when the governor acts.

  8. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    There are sexual deviants in all walks of life. Just so happens the sexual deviants on the democrat side happens to be the party leader when the conduct took place while the best you can come up with against the republicans is a town councilman in Los Angeles.
  9. fact check

    fact check New Member

    The particular hypocrisy is that these Republicans all have espoused 'Family Values' as a reason to support them.
  10. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    I can think of a lot more reasons to vote for republicans other than just family values, but all politicians of every political persuasion espouse those values to try to get elected. If Obama were a single atheist he would not be President right now. He used his family as a means to get elected. Equally so, since the inception of the elected politician they have said things to get themselves into office only to not follow them once in office. Or even live a secret double life that is completely opposite of the values they espouse.

    Bringing up a town councilman who almost nobody has heard of and only those who live in his district in Los Angeles has voted for him as a way of saying this is the hypocrisy of the entire republican party is ridiculous. Its akin to someone pointing to a dog catcher who happens to be a democrat who cheated on his wife and saying this man represents the entire democrat party. The real reason this has become such a big story is due to how the man was caught. Not his political party status.
  11. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    That's ridiculus, Republicans did themselves in the last term. Not to mention presenting the Maverick and the Hockey Mom.....John Edwards probably would have been elected, even after his scandal.
  12. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Don't forget Barny Franks sex scandal.
  13. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

  14. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    I don't condone either one. When you get a republican president that flashes his genitals at women as a means of making sexual advances and has a trist with a junior employee in the oval office I'll be more then happy to tell you to shoot the SOB.
  15. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    The true hypocrisy is that the liberals do not stand for any type of morality in an attempt to avoid being held accountable.
  16. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    I think you underestimate just how unlikeable edwards is.

    His cheating on a wife fighting cancer was more then just a scandel.
  17. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Well Tieguy, I for one, will never accuse you of being "informed" on political issues. But, just for kicks, how about a little reading for your political education?

    Republican cheaters go way back in history

    The list of prominent Republicans who cheated on their spouses went way back in American history.

    James Garfield, who was president from 1880 to 1884, reportedly had an extramarital affair with Lucia Calhoun in the 1860s. His wife, Lucretia, discovered the liaison and made him choose between staying married or getting a divorce. Garfield chose to say married. 37

    Warren Harding was more than the Republican president who presided over the scandalous, bribe-taking Teapot Dome administration in the early 1920s that ranked with the Bush Jr. one for the most corrupt in American history. Harding had numerous extramarital affairs, including with Nan Britton, who was 31 years younger than him. In fact, Britton bore Harding a child one year before he won the presidency. 38

    Harding and Britton had sex in White House closets, bathrooms, and offices, even as Harding’s wife, Florence, remained in other parts of the White House. 39

    Britton was not the only extramarital relationship that Harding, who died in office of a heart attack, had in the White House. In fact, Carrie Phillips, who had been a German sympathizer during World War I, attempted to blackmail Harding and was paid hush money by the Republican Party. 40

    During World War II, Dwight Eisenhower allegedly began an affair with Kay Summersby, a young British woman who became Eisenhower’s personal secretary. Summersby confirmed the affair in her 1975 book, Past Forgetting: My Love Affair with Dwight D. Eisenhower. 41

    No less than Christian evangelist Billy Graham, a close ally of Republicans like Nixon and Bush, allegedly took home a prostitute while married, according to Marshall Frady’s book, Billy Graham, A Parable of American Righteousness. In 1952, Graham and another evangelist had dinner with two prostitutes in Paris, and each one took one home, Frady wrote. Graham told a friend that nothing happened - he got cold feet and fled after the prostitute took off her clothes. 42

    Other conservative evangelists, such as Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, followed through with affairs. 43

    Nelson Rockefeller, vice president to Gerald Ford in the mid-1970s, died in 1979 at the age of 70 while allegedly having sex with Megan Marshak, his 27-year-old secretary. In his will, Rockefeller reportedly left Marshak the deed to a New York townhouse and $50,000 in cash. 44

    The affair of another Republican mentioned as a possible presidential candidate, Rudy Giuliani, was covered more by the media. Giuliani started seeing Judith Nathan while still married to his second wife, Donna. After another divorce in 2002, Guiliani married Nathan in 2003. 45

    Millionaire druggie and liar Rush Limbaugh allegedly cheated on two of his three wives. Another rabid-right talk show host, Laura Schlessinger, reportedly has also engaged in extramarital affairs. For more on these affairs and other sex scandals involving Republicans, including Tom DeLay, George Will, and Dick Armey, see the sites mentioned in the footnote at the bottom of this chapter. 46

    Some Republicans actually do time for sex crimes

    Occasionally, some Republicans actually get caught in a serious sex crime.

    Quick now, has anyone heard of Randy Ankeney? He was a rising star in Colorado Republican circles who held a $63,000 position in the Governor’s Office of Economic Development until he was arrested in 2001 and accused of trying to have sex with a 13-year-old girl he met through the Internet. 47

    Police said Ankeney even warned the girl he’d ruin her life if she told anyone. Does that sound familiar? That’s how many of these Republicans keep their affairs quiet - they threaten a bunch of people.

    Another 17-year-old girl said Ankeney sexually assaulted her while working on a political campaign. In 2002, he pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault of a child. He was sentenced to 22 years in prison in 2003. 48

    How about Parker J. Bena, a Virginia Republican activist who proudly cast one of his state’s electoral vote for Bush in 2000, being indicted for possessing child pornography in 2001? Bena was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. 49

    Long-time Virginia Republican fund-raiser Richard Delgaudio, 50, was more fortunate. He only received two years probation in 2003 after pleading guilty to taking sexually-related photos of a 16-year-old girl in a motel room. In 2001, Delgaudio was picked up by police in Baltimore’s Patterson Park, an area police said was known for prostitution. 50

    Does Republican Marty Glickman, one of those rabid dog conservative talk radio commentators in Florida who was arrested in 2001 and charged with giving drugs like LSD and money to underaged girls in exchange for sex, ring a bell? 51

    Anyone hear of Kevin T. Coan, a Republican who formerly directed the St. Louis Election Board? He was charged in 2001 with trying to solicit sex from a 14-year-old girl in cyberspace. As of 2003, his case hadn’t been resolved. 52

    Then there was Philip Giordano, the former Republican mayor of Waterbury, Conn., who was sentenced in 2003 to 37 years in prison for soliciting sex with underaged girls and violating their civil rights. It’s more likely you’ve heard of him since this case received ample media coverage. 53

    Another case that got some attention involved Beverly Russell, a leader in the South Carolina Republican Party and the local Christian Coalition who campaigned for presidential candidate Pat Robertson, who allegedly molested his step-daughter, children-drowner Susan Smith. 54

    I’ve been told that numerous Religious Right nuts read sexual material under the guise of knowing what’s in it so they can keep it from their children. Many Religious Rightists also believe a man can have sex with his wife anytime he pleases, whether she wants to or not. Some would call that rape, but I’m sure these nuts have another word for it.

    Did Bennett pay for a dominatrix’s services?

    Finally, there was Bill Bennett, the hypocritical, self-proclaimed morality czar who was one of Clinton’s harshest critics for having an affair. According to Jack Hughes, webmaster of, and another source, Bennett hired a Las Vegas dominatrix, essentially paying money for sexual services. Reporters from nationally-known newspapers and magazines have interviewed Leola McConnell, or “Mistress Lee,” but have not been able to obtain written proof like receipts or emails to verify the story. One source said there supposedly was a video tape of them floating around, but they hadn’t seen it.

    In an email, McConnell didn’t deny that Bennett was a client or talking to reporters about it. “Contact [the reporters], why are you asking me? That’s the best way to find out if it’s true or not,” she wrote.

    I contacted some reporters who allegedly spoke with McConnell. One said the allegation could be true, but McConnell did not produce any evidence to help substantiate the tie, such as receipts and correspondence.

    As Joshua Green, who broke the story about Bennett’s gambling habit, wrote in The Washington Monthly in 2003, “no person can be more rightly credited with making morality and personal responsibility an integral part of the political debate” than Bennett. As drug czar under Bush Sr. and education secretary under Reagan, Bennett continually shoved his high-handed view of morality into our faces. He wrote books on morals and virtues and made millions speaking about the subject across the country, usually pointing the finger at Democratic excesses and ignoring sins committed by Republicans. 55

    Then came Green’s 2003 story that Bennett had spent millions gambling in Las Vegas and Atlantic City casinos since at least the early 1990s. Suddenly, Bennett and his poker buddies who defended his excesses - Robert Bork, Antonin Scalia, and William Rehnquist - didn’t look so moral or credible to many people.

    The point of this essay is not to say Republicans are more likely to commit an extramarital affair than Democrats; I believe the truth is closer to being that they are equally likely. The media is full of examples of Democrats embroiled in sexual scandals; I’m just trying to balance the scales a little. I find Republican sexual scandals more appalling than Democratic transgressions after all the Republicans did to expose Clinton’s private life - even spending $100 million of tax money - in the 1990s.
  18. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Nobody can trump a president doing it in the oval office. Clinton is the king of all public officials sex scandals.
  19. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    why did you leave out JFK ?
    and his mafia supplied whores ?
  20. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Shush! Don't you know that in TOS's world only republicans do wrong, democrats are complete saints!