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vantexan

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I dont think you understand Bolton's experience in theWhite House. Trump wasn;t even close to being his first rodeo. I;m sorry a man of such experience hurt your feelings when he made a statement based on decades of experience.
Funny how you said George W. Bush got us into wars but then use the "man of such experience" who was Bush's chief architect of those wars to attack Trump. Politics truly makes strange bedfellows.
 

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Funny how you said George W. Bush got us into wars but then use the "man of such experience" who was Bush's chief architect of those wars to attack Trump. Politics truly makes strange bedfellows.
Never said I cared for Bolton,but there is no denying his experience with presidents and procedures that are followed with Classified Materiel. Carry on
 

newfie

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Never said I cared for Bolton,but there is no denying his experience with presidents and procedures that are followed with Classified Materiel. Carry on
he is familiar with the procedures for those that do not have the highest declassification authority.
he is familiar with how everyone but the president has to handle them.

He does not have a need to know and therefore would not know how the president declassifies his documents.
 

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No one has a higher declassification authority than the president.
Declassification is a process that leaves a digital as well as a paper trail. This has been explained to you ad nauseum yet it seems too complicated a concept for you to grasp .Perhaps you should go back to quoting posts and changing the words as that really seems to be at the limit of your understanding of these matters
 

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he is familiar with the procedures for those that do not have the highest declassification authority.
he is familiar with how everyone but the president has to handle them.

He does not have a need to know and therefore would not know how the president declassifies his documents.
He would know of the Paper and Digital trail that Declassification produces,as a matter of fact he has said there was neither with Trump's supposed Declassification.
look, i know you REALLY REALLY REALLY want the process to be the simple one you have conjured up but sadly for you that isnt how this works
 

newfie

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Declassification is a process that leaves a digital as well as a paper trail. This has been explained to you ad nauseum yet it seems too complicated a concept for you to grasp .Perhaps you should go back to quoting posts and changing the words as that really seems to be at the limit of your understanding of these matters
the president can say "these documents are now declassified" at that point they are declassified regardless of whether or not the process documents it properly.
otherwise if the president had to wait for some clerk to do the paperwork then that clerk could disrupt the process and delay it from happening.
nothing can ever delay a president from doing his job.

in your world the president would have to wait on a process before being able to do his job. So in the current scenario if that admin does not like Biden then the admin could find ways to delay the declassification process or even refuse to do so based on some disagreement with how Biden wants to handle the declassification. This would effectively put the clerk in the process at a higher level of authority over the president because the clerk would have control over a part of the process.

since Biden has the ultimate classification authority no person and no process can delay him from declassifying whatever documents he wants declassified. Once the president says they are declassified thats it regardless of whether the stamps are changed and regardless of whatever administrative process is executed or not.

your understanding is completely wrong here and solely based on the fact that you want to change the law to get at Trump.
 

newfie

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He would know of the Paper and Digital trail that Declassification produces,as a matter of fact he has said there was neither with Trump's supposed Declassification.
look, i know you REALLY REALLY REALLY want the process to be the simple one you have conjured up but sadly for you that isnt how this works
does not matter . once the president says something is declassified its done regardless of whether the administrative process was performed correctly.

the president could for instance say to his intelligence folks any document in my possession is automatically declassified and that is the end of the story.

I know you don't like it that Trump had that power but it is what it is.
 
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