FBI Raids Mar-a-lago

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Today's nutcase left wing narrative....

"It doesn't matter if the documents were classified because it's illegal to have classified documents"

.... I think we broke him.
no ,it;s illegal to have NDI and SCI documents outside of a Federal Facility. It doesent matter if they are classified or not. I probably should have told you from the start the classification status didnt matter but it is great fun seeing the ignorance you spout about the Classification process
 

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You're saying declassified documents stored at an ex presidents home protected by the secret service reviewed by the FBI on june4th is not secure?
oh boy more education for you!!!! I'm saying the Presidential Records Act states these documents are not his property ,rather they are the property of the USA and must be stored in a secure Federal Facility designated by the NARA.
 

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and for those of you who disagree with my statement in give you this
Andrew Napolitano: "Under the law, it doesn’t matter if the documents on which NDI is contained are classified or not, as it is simply criminal to have NDI in a non-federal facility, to have those without security clearances, and to keep it from the feds when they are seeking it"
 

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@newfie @DriveInDriveOut I DO hope you enjoy being educated as much as i DEARLY love educating you

Judge Andrew P. Napolitano is a graduate of Princeton University and the University of Notre Dame Law School. He is the youngest life-tenured Superior Court judge in the history of the State of New Jersey. He sat on the bench from 1987 to 1995, when he presided over more than 150 jury trials and thousands of motions, sentencings, and hearings.

Judge Napolitano taught constitutional law and jurisprudence at Delaware Law School for one and half years and at Seton Hall Law School for 11 years, and at Brooklyn Law School for four years. He was often chosen by the students as their most outstanding professor.
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newfie

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you are in dire need of more education,and I hope you enjoy being educated as much as I enjoy educating you: In the redacted affidavit The FBI clearly stated they felt there was probable cause to suspect NDI was at the premises. Again.like it love it or hate it it is ILLEGAL to possess National Defense Information outside of a government controlled facility regardless of Classification.
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like i said good luck with that.
 

newfie

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I am shocked nobody here but myself picked up on the fact that it is Illegal to possess NDI outside of a Government Controlled facility. The mere possession of SCI (Secret Compartmented Information) and NDI ( National Defense Information) regardless of Classified or Declassified is criminal,and is covered in the Espionage Act. To obstruct the DOJ and FBI from retrieving this information and then LYING about having it is illegal and called Obstruction

Also Trump stepped on his dick when he declared that he had already declassissified these documents,as that showed he admitted possession.
your law degree is in what?
 

newfie

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you cant seem to understand that the mere possession of many of these documents is illegal. Also had Trump actually turned over the documents when asked and not lied about when pressed the raid wouldnt have happened.

I think he wanted the raid to happen as he is back in the spotlight "no publicity is bad publicity" thinking since he claims the documents are declassified all would be well........................he needs a better legal team lol
ooooooooh you got him this time.
 

newfie

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oh boy more education for you!!!! I'm saying the Presidential Records Act states these documents are not his property ,rather they are the property of the USA and must be stored in a secure Federal Facility designated by the NARA.
thats the crux of this argument that will someday be decided in a court of law probably at the supreme court level.
the right says the presidential records act confirms the presidents right to retain those documents.
the left in this case , (not in the case of Obama) says it does not.

lefts position is every president but trump has those rights.
 

bacha29

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no ,it;s illegal to have NDI and SCI documents outside of a Federal Facility. It doesent matter if they are classified or not. I probably should have told you from the start the classification status didnt matter but it is great fun seeing the ignorance you spout about the Classification process
I commend your efforts. Just as the MAGA's of the 1970's couldn't accept the fact that Nixon was up to his eyeballs in Watergate...until he had to turn over the tapes. today's MAGA's cannot accept the fact that their Messiah/Dear Leader could be guilty of any crime whatsoever because he's their king god who doesn't have to answer to rule of law believing that his character is so pure that he's not capable of committing a crime.

But here's the funny part. Trump claimed that he declassified the documents located. But, in it's request for a Special Master to oversee the investigation Trump stated that the Special Master whoever is appointed must have special security clearance in order to view classified documents. LOL.
 

Babagounj

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What I fail to see in anyone's posts is a timeline of when all these alleged documents arrived at Trump's home.

Did they all appear at the same time or over the years of his term in office?

Who delivered these alleged documents ?
 

newfie

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What I fail to see in anyone's posts is a timeline of when all these alleged documents arrived at Trump's home.

Did they all appear at the same time or over the years of his term in office?

Who delivered these alleged documents ?
no one here knows for sure. It would make sense that many of those documents arrived throughout Trumps presidency since he frequently worked out of Mar-a-lago.
 
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