FBI Raids Mar-a-lago

[newfie]

Sure he has authority, I have never questioned that. But as i have stated (as well as proved proved many pages back) there is a vast process to declassification.

the president is the process of declassification. whatever he says goes.

 

[newfie]

Also regarding Top Secret Documents ( as i have stated and proves many many MANY times) it's a moot point of the Classification status. It is illegal to possess these documents outside an approved NARA location.

the process of declassification allows that the public can access those documents if they so desire. Ownership then becomes public record not government secrecy.

the NARA argument would be for the original document. Once declassified anyone that wants a copy can have it including the former president.

the records act defines the process it does not deny the president the rights to have and to hold those documents or copies of them.

it is not a criminal act for a president to have copies of his work product from his time. The presidential record act provides a means for the government to preserve the historical record of that administration.

 

[fishtm2001]

"Absolutely hilarious": DOJ filing exposes Trump’s secret objections

The DOJ's response to Trump's lawyers in Mar-a-Lago case is "absolutely hilarious," says attorney George Conway.

www.salon.com

 

[728ups]

the president is the process of declassification. whatever he says goes.

as usual you are wrong

 

[728ups]

The DOJ asked for an extension on paperwork because none of the vendors are willing to work with the Trump team--for whatever reason (presumably because of the penchant of non-payment). As such, the DOJ is going to contract someone and then pass to Trump for payment. I'm guessing failure to pay in a timely manner will also result in some sort of contempt charge.This is ya'll's Alpha Male

 

[728ups]

but yet you're not able to dispute my irrefutable proof.

I have done that many pages back,try and keep up

 

[BlackFriday]

I have done that many pages back,try and keep up

What will your position be when this turns out to be a bunch of garbage like Russian collusion and on and on?

 

[fishtm2001]

"If he wants the special master to make recommendations as to whether he is entitled to the relief he seeks, plaintiff will need to participate in the process" the letter said.

Ouch

 

[fishtm2001]

the process of declassification allows that the public can access those documents if they so desire. Ownership then becomes public record not government secrecy.

the NARA argument would be for the original document. Once declassified anyone that wants a copy can have it including the former president.

the records act defines the process it does not deny the president the rights to have and to hold those documents or copies of them.

it is not a criminal act for a president to have copies of his work product from his time. The presidential record act provides a means for the government to preserve the historical record of that administration.

• Trump was warned in late 2021 by his former White House lawyer that it was unlawful to retain the documents, especially classified information;
• Trump personally sorted through the documents in late 2021;
• Trump’s personal knowledge and possession, access, and control of the documents is indicated by the quantity, content, and location of documents with classified markings (including intermingled with personal belongings) and by his admissions on Truth Social;
• Trump repeatedly stated privately that the documents were his to possess and he was not willing to deliver them to the government;
• Trump aides repeatedly tried to get him to return the documents to the government;
• Trump was repeatedly put on notice by Archives and Justice Department that his retention of the documents were unlawful and a potential threat to national security;
• Trump was apparently involved in obstructive acts of trying to conceal documents from the government after receiving a subpoena.

JustSecurity

 

[728ups]

What will your position be when this turns out to be a bunch of garbage like Russian collusion and on and on?

tRump has been involved in so many Impeachments and Scandals we need a scorecard to keep up with them all

 

[728ups]

What will your position be when this turns out to be a bunch of garbage like Russian collusion and on and on?

 

[PT 4 Life]

tRump has been involved in so many Impeachments and Scandals we need a scorecard to keep up with them all

He learned his criminal behavior from his father

 

[newfie]

What will your position be when this turns out to be a bunch of garbage like Russian collusion and on and on?

they havent confessed to the russian hoax yet.

 

[newfie]

Sure he has authority, I have never questioned that. But as i have stated (as well as proved proved many pages back) there is a vast process to declassification. Your idea that the president can declassify Tp Secret Documents without following this process is simply incorrect.

the president is the process . again who is going to deny POTUS a declassification because he didnt follow the process?

 

[newfie]

• Trump was warned in late 2021 by his former White House lawyer that it was unlawful to retain the documents, especially classified information;

when it comes to declassification the president is the law.

just because its trump does not mean the rules are different for him.

 

[newfie]

• Trump was warned in late 2021 by his former White House lawyer that it was unlawful to retain the documents, especially classified information;

potus is the law. There are no special rules denying Trump the same rights.

• Trump personally sorted through the documents in late 2021;

and? he is entitled to do so?

• Trump’s personal knowledge and possession, access, and control of the documents is indicated by the quantity, content, and location of documents with classified markings (including intermingled with personal belongings) and by his admissions on Truth Social;

and? he is entitled to do so

• Trump repeatedly stated privately that the documents were his to possess and he was not willing to deliver them to the government;

standard ex president argument. but somehow its different for trump

• Trump aides repeatedly tried to get him to return the documents to the government;

understood his aides have no balls.

• Trump was repeatedly put on notice by Archives and Justice Department that his retention of the documents were unlawful and a potential threat to national security;

NARA putting a former president on notice? did you read this before you posted this nonsense? Did Nara warn Obama over the 30 truckloads he still has in his possession. Nope just Trump

• Trump was apparently involved in obstructive acts of trying to conceal documents from the government after receiving a subpoena.

The were found in his office and the storage locker. Unless you're claiming some were found in Melania's underwear drawer?

I realize this looks damning in your cult meeting but is total nonsense. There is a process that all former presidents have gone through where they often argue over what the president can and can not keep. the only difference is the biden administration and a biased Obama loving NARA directer tried to turn this BS into a criminal act.

 

[newfie]

He learned his criminal behavior from his father

as did you. Do you think biden learned how to sniff people from his father. Maybe his father taught him how to shower with 11 year old girls too?

Is something that allegedly happened 60 years ago more important to you then your current president taking bribes from the Ukraine, china and Russia?

 

[bottomups]

it does address whether trump had classified documents. A different spin does not change that point. declassifying allows public access and acquistion of those documents. its not a question of personal ownership but public access and Trump is entitled to have public ownership of declassified documents as a member of the public.

You're a member of the public. Try to get a copy of those declassified documents. Let me know how that works out for you.

 

[PT 4 Life]

as did you. Do you think biden learned how to sniff people from his father. Maybe his father taught him how to shower with 11 year old girls too?

Is something that allegedly happened 60 years ago more important to you then your current president taking bribes from the Ukraine, china and Russia?

None of these politicians care about us, neither did trump. Trump was Russia and puttin biggest fan.

 

[vantexan]

tRump has been involved in so many Impeachments and Scandals we need a scorecard to keep up with them all

Your made up scandals and impeachments don't count.