DriveInDriѵeOut
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Okay why has Biden's DOJ not followed the law and released them?
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DriveInDriѵeOut
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Yes, that's what I said, I'm glad you finally got caught up with the rest of the class you stable genius.
No she didn't. She let the FBI Director handle it. It was his decision that Clinton wouldn't be charged. And it was her responsibility but she punted. Amazingly after having a meeting with Bill on the tarmac in his private jet. Go figure.
UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
They talked about their grandkids, c’mon man!
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Let me spell this out for some of you:
The DOJ would not have taken the extraordinary step to seek a warrant to search an ex-President's home to retrieve these confidential, secret and top secret/TSSCI materials if the materials in question were declassified.
They just wouldn't have risked the blowback.
The documents weren't declassified. The documents weren't planted. The documents weren't Trump's to take.
The documents are classified. They belong to our government. The warrant was legal. The search was legal. The investigation continues apace.
(I'd think long and hard about throwing support to this guy in '24, he's damaged goods)
Hope this helps.
The DOJ would not have taken the extraordinary step to seek a warrant to search an ex-President's home to retrieve these confidential, secret and top secret/TSSCI materials if the materials in question were declassified.
They just wouldn't have risked the blowback.
The documents weren't declassified. The documents weren't planted. The documents weren't Trump's to take.
The documents are classified. They belong to our government. The warrant was legal. The search was legal. The investigation continues apace.
(I'd think long and hard about throwing support to this guy in '24, he's damaged goods)
Hope this helps.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Are documents that Trump declassified when he was President still declassified after he leaves office or not?
DriveInDriѵeOut
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Yes they would.
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Once documents become declassified… they’re declassified.
The government knows which docs are classified. It isn’t some mystery to those who should know. There’s a process involved.
newfie
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I dont understand the question. Trump says he declassified them. they are therefore declassified. I've only said that about 100 times here and you have disagreed with me as much.
No , one of the arguments about the most sensitive documents was that you cant remove them from the white house. I'm saying the president can do anything with them he wants. I'm saying biden has some of them with him right now.
the documents that Trump declassified and took with him were not only under lock and key but the entire facility is protected by the secret service and and others. There are not many facilities more secure than a presidential address protected by the secret service.
it completely negates the argument that trump put those documents at risk.
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newfie
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a. it is
b. The documents are still declassified on the orders of the president and does not recquire any type of administrative processing that could slow down the effectiveness of a president to do so.
for example the president could be having a discussion with a foriegn leader and decide he needs to declassify a document to have an effective conversation or negotiation. He can then simple declare to his staff that he is declassifing that document and do so.
He does not at that point have to wait for anyone to record the declassification. If his staff fails to properly record the declassification that does not in any way negate his declassification order.
the president is the supreme authority on declassification.
newfie
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Hillaries case is completely different.
hillary did not have the supreme authority of classification that the president has. She should have asked for permission and did not do so. Obama denied knowing anything about it.
Hillary recieved a subpoena and responded by destroying the evidence.
hillary may actually be the reason the FBI raided Trump.
newfie
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I've seen about 20 different scandels involving the AG, IRS and FBI targeting republicans. I'm not as gullible.
newfie
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Once declassified by a president yes but off course the next president could probably reclassify them. what you can't do is void trumps declassification and say he was quilty of breaking the law.
we see this scenario with every president minus the raid they gave Trump . Personally i think they all do it so they have notes for their memoirs and probably some of it memorabilia.
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Link to me where the government has acknowledged the existence of these so-called declassified documents. Show me the receipts.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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So why has Biden's DOJ refused to release documents Trump officially declassified?
True, but she was a major government figure who mishandled classified documents in clear violation of the law but nothing happened to her. To allow her to skate but go after Trump for being in possession of classified documents (if that's indeed the case)then there's a clear double standard. By the way what Hillary did would not have been allowed by asking for permission to do so. There are very strict rules that govern conducting government business on government issued devices with records maintained of all transactions. Hillary violated all of that to keep the government from being aware of her using the power of her office to make lucrative deals for her, Bill, and their foundation.
DriveInDriѵeOut
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The FBI has been out to get Trump for a long time. Democrats don't even deny this.
They went on a fishing expedition.
The Democrats who own them want DOJ charges for January 6, and the committee came up with nothing. So they used this as an excuse hoping to find something. Getting back the crossfire hurricane binder they're refusing to release is a sweet bonus for them.
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Submit a FOIA request, I don’t care.
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Wahhhh Trump is a victim
Wahhhh The big old mean Dems have been out to get Trump
This is the modern right wing. Complain, play the victim, cry, whine, make up lies.
Mueller nailed him for obstruction 10 times and Barr misled the public. PERIOD
Trump solicited a foreign country to interfere in domestic affairs to help his personal political ambitions. IMPEACHED
Trump whipped up a mob to attack and interrupt a sitting Congress’ constitutional duty to buy him time to overturn the results of the election he LOST. IMPEACHED
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El Correcto
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i can tell just by looking at Trump that he is a 
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