FBI Raids Mar-a-lago

oldngray

nowhere special
None of the laws donald is charged with breaking turn on whether information was deemed to be unclassified.
If Trump declared anything declassified when it was President it automatically happened. He had the ultimate authority to do so.

He had a standing order to declassify everything sent to Mar-a lago.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
If Trump declared anything declassified when it was President it automatically happened. He had the ultimate authority to do so.

He had a standing order to declassify everything sent to Mar-a lago.
which is the legacy of the snowflake attempts to get Trump.
trump as president has that power as previous presidents have
yet with Trump the snowflakes continue to believe that only trump should be denied those powers.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
If Trump declared anything declassified when it was President it automatically happened. He had the ultimate authority to do so.

He had a standing order to declassify everything sent to Mar-a lago.
Unless and until the documents are stamped "Declassified" by the requisite agency, and following the submission of a written memo signed by the president, they have historically not been considered declassified.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
🚨🚨 #BLUELIVESMATTER🚨🚨

They matter so much to Republicans. So much so that Breitbart leaked the full details of the warrant including the names of the individual FBI agents who were carrying out the court-ordered search of Trump's residence... and yet we don't hear a single Republican come out with a negative word to say about Breitbart.

Where is Rand Paul now? Ted Cruz? Lindsey Graham? Tim Scott? Any of them? Will any of them come to the defense of individuals in our nation's top law enforcement agency?

🚨🚨 #BLUELIVESMATTER🚨🚨
FBI agents have to wear blue suits now?
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
🚨🚨 #BLUELIVESMATTER🚨🚨

They matter so much to Republicans. So much so that Breitbart leaked the full details of the warrant including the names of the individual FBI agents who were carrying out the court-ordered search of Trump's residence... and yet we don't hear a single Republican come out with a negative word to say about Breitbart.

Where is Rand Paul now? Ted Cruz? Lindsey Graham? Tim Scott? Any of them? Will any of them come to the defense of individuals in our nation's top law enforcement agency?

🚨🚨 #BLUELIVESMATTER🚨🚨
Boy thats going to make the cover up much more difficult.
All Agents and judges need to lose their jobs when this latest insurrection is reviewed by the republicans next year.
the decision makers need to go to jail for this insurrection.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
And that’s the best you can do to defend Trump’s bad behavior!

public trust in the FBI has fallen in recent years. Where 57 percent of U.S. adults said that the FBI was doing either an “excellent” or a “good” job in 2019, this fell to 44 percent in 2021.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
"So the FBI planted classified evidence, but also Trump declassified that evidence that he never took, but also it's not even a big deal if he did take it because only one box was classified I mean declassified, but also even if he did have many boxes of classified documents..."

B. Cohen
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Top Secret and TSSCI docs cannot be declassified by the president at least in the way that Trump has characterized. We would need more evidence that he would’ve followed other federal laws pertaining to this matter.
the president has the power to declassify. just because its trump does not mean he loses that power to do so.

this idiotic argument is the basis of your six years of snowflakery.
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
the president has the power to declassify. just because its trump does not mean he loses that power to do so.

this idiotic argument is the basis of your six years of snowflakery.
"The fact that the arguments made by Trump’s defenders contradict one another—were the documents planted or were they magically declassified?—doesn’t matter to them one whit. After all, the arguments are not intended to persuade a judge or anyone else for whom logical consistency matters. The arguments are intended to sow confusion among Trump supporters, to get them to doubt anything the FBI says about Trump."

Phil Rotner
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
"The fact that the arguments made by Trump’s defenders contradict one another—were the documents planted or were they magically declassified?—doesn’t matter to them one whit. After all, the arguments are not intended to persuade a judge or anyone else for whom logical consistency matters. The arguments are intended to sow confusion among Trump supporters, to get them to doubt anything the FBI says about Trump."

Phil Rotner
“Most of this sounds like a bunch of hooey”


TheBrownblob
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
The search warrant for Trump’s residence cited three criminal laws, all from Title 18 of the United States Code. Section 793, better known as the Espionage Act, which covers the unlawful retention of defense-related information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary; Section 1519, which covers destroying or concealing documents to obstruct government investigations or administrative proceedings; and Section 2071, which covers the unlawful removal of government records. Notably, none of those laws turn on whether information was deemed to be unclassified.
 
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