Bubblehead
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Is this her?
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damagedbrown
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lol ......bubblehead, i must say u have found her/him, didnt know she was an internet superstar, lmao, oh and by the way how do i get involved in fantasy football with brown cafe i feel the need to take your crown, lmao,
The Original Poster specifically asked about filing a grievance against another hourly worker. I told him, in post #5, that yes he could, as one option, and cited Article 37 which says, "Employees will also treat each other as well as the Employer with dignity and respect."
Yet three posters say you can not file a grievance against another hourly worker. Not just that it might be unwise, but that you can't do it, period. If any of the three, or anyone else for that matter, still believe this, could you tell me where you got this idea?
Yet three posters say you can not file a grievance against another hourly worker. Not just that it might be unwise, but that you can't do it, period. If any of the three, or anyone else for that matter, still believe this, could you tell me where you got this idea?
Bubblehead
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I wasn't one of the three to which you refer, but am in agreement with them.
Perhaps they are referencing the Teamster bylaw that states we will not bring reproach against another Teamster.
There is contractual language stating that we cannot be required by the company to do so as well.
To file a grievance against another Teamster brother or sister, would definitely qualify as bringing reproach in my mind.
whiskey
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I'm afraid I'm "old school" on this one. Agreeing to meet off property one on one to settle a dispute doesn't have to have a physically violent end. More often than not, both parties resolve the issue in a civil manner. However, there is the slight chance for broken bones. Ouch!
Bubblehead
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"Old School", I guess, is not being above hitting a woman, no matter what her sexual orientation?
badpal
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I was watching some old jim carrey skits on youtube a while back caught this one very funny
Can you quote that contractual language????
The person bringing "reproach" against a fellow Teamster is the initiator, the person making the threats, not the person defending himself against the threats and possible future violent acts should the threats be carried out. An innocent person or victim always has the right to self defense. Nothing can take that away from you.
The Teamsters Constitution and local bylaws mention numerous charges that fellow members can be charged with, and spell out the methods for filing the charges, holding the trials, testifying against the accused, and punishing the guilty.
In recent years there has also been the IRB which accepts charges from Teamsters against other Teamsters and prosecutes them when the evidence warrants. All authorized by the IBT Constitution and paid for by the dues of the members.
UnconTROLLed
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You can file grievances against other Teamsters. I have seen it done and seen them won. Paid grievances.
Braveheart
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Have a shop steward talk to the hothead. We take care of our own. Do not get management involved. He needs to be made aware of his actions and that they could get him fired. He needs to grow up and shut up. If it continues then get a steward to get a cool manager to sit the guy down with a steward to make sure he knows that one more and he is gone.
We had a guy of 19 years fired for losing his cool. He came back but no back pay and lost his house over it. Neither side was happy including the person who was threatened. We should always try to clean our own house before you call in the other side.
Yes.
Sometimes a grievance is against Management, sometimes against a fellow worker, and sometimes against both. Seniority violations and threats of violence can sometimes be the result of a fellow worker's actions, with or without Management's knowledge.
And while we're on the subject, Management can file grievances too!!! It doesn't happen too often because normally they would just use their managerial authority to handle the matter, but it does happen.
Anonymous 10
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+1 this is good advice
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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In this case the he is a she (sort of). Does this change your advice?
WHAT???? Take care of our own... You mean we milk the dues out of our own and turn our backs to them.... It's every man/woman for themself as far as the teamsters are concerned...
And you are guest in managements house..........
And that's because you despise UPS workers and will jump at the chance to ruin their lives. Guilty or innocent, it makes no difference. If the opportunity presents itself, you seize the moment you've been waiting for to display your contempt for these two UPSers. The rest of them will get theirs in due time.
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