Do you approve of the way HOFFA handled this contract?
I'm just waiting for the day that jr finally is charged with a crime just like every union president before him has been. Why break that pattern now.
( oops...one was found not guilty, but who cares ?)
Why all the hate towards Hoffa? hall negotiated the contract not Hoffa. Micro managing is what UPS management does to other management. That's not what Hoffa does to hall. If you can look outside the box (I know it's hard) for one minute and realize that the UAW is taking cuts. We are not.
Non-union workers are seeing all benefits stagnate or decrease. We are getting wage raises, we're not paying for benefits and we're still a profitable company. Even though we are getting undercut by FED EX ground scabs.
We're doing pretty darn good.
I know this doesn't convince the TDU "Bizarro world" people.
hate to say it ezmoney, but ford, GM are lossing there asses off. not posting a 4 billion dollar profit like UPS.
to say a handfull of people is to blame for this contract is wrong. we're all to blame. just because you voted no, doesn't mean your with out blame either. i'm sure alot more could have been done to spred the word on why to vote no. to bad we got stuck by the Jan 1st dead line on when this contract has to be passed. doing away with past practices was are biggest mistake of this contract.
CEO's are the biggest crooks (Enron, MCI, Global Crossings), don't you think you are being a bit jaded????
GM and Ford's problems are because of bad trade agreements and some wack idea that Japanese cars are better than American. I have had two cars in the last 15 years. A 93' Pontiac Grand Am that I sold with 180,000 miles on it and a 2001 Chrysler 300m that I currently own with 140,000 miles on it. Never owned and will never own a foreign car. Unless it's a Ferarri.
I never said I voted no. I voted yes. Take your blinders off and see what's going on in America. Working people are under attack. CEO's are ruining this country for stock market gains and their bonuses. UPS is profitable because of the dedication of well paid drivers. If we weren't well paid how many would circle back with a 53 foot trailer to a pickup that wasn't ready to go? Not many. I do. And UPS tells me I over service the customer. I didn't think that was possible.
ezmoney, the only point i was trying to make about the UAW taking pay cuts, was that the big 3 are losing money. ups is not losing money, but making large sum of money.
secondly. it wasn't about how some one voted. it was about people blaming hall and hoffa. wich there is no need. it passed by over 60%. i voted no, but the majority of UPS voted yes. i can live with that. with the contract passing, i would have to say people are happy with hall and hoffa and they way the contract went. To the people who are unhappy with the leadership of the teamster, throw your hat into the ring. don't bitch and be arm-chair teamster, do something about it.
I'm talking about American car companies assembled in the USA or Canada. All Toyotas and Hondas manufactured in the USA have the profits going to Japan.
I got a better idea. how about invest in American companies that employ Americans and keep the money here.
those companies are hard to find.
an american company , employing americans. Using american supplies and keeping the money in america. Very hard to find.
Just look at who owns your american car companies. Who they own.