Marne Vet
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This is why you had to pay for a bad DR. Out of sight, and out of weather. Leaving it over the fence in plain site is wrong. Don't give bad advice to potential new drivers, or anyone else.
I bet this guy had to change his pants
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This is why you had to pay for a bad DR. Out of sight, and out of weather. Leaving it over the fence in plain site is wrong. Don't give bad advice to potential new drivers, or anyone else.
I determine whether its a safe DR... I'll take pics if necessary... BTW, when are they going to enable the camera on the new diad???
Marne Vet
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Runners with their awful advice on this forum should be put in the que. Seriously, if you can't enter the yard because of a dog you are to sheet the package(s) as NI(1,2,etc), and leave a Delivery Notice as best as you can. Your safety is the first priority, and the OMS should make that clear if the customer calls to question the delivery attempt. You do NOT just throw a package in a DR bag and leave it over a fence. smh
Marne Vet
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Not sure when they'll enable those cameras. Till then I use my phone to snap a picture of any notes left that I can't retrieve, or of the stop itself if there's a dog in the yard. Blowing the horn and screaming "UPS" at the top of my lungs rarely gets anyone to come to the door. Safety first, deliver second. I have no problem coming back tomorrow. I get paid the same either way.
sorry bud, I'm no runner... but I am very aware of my area and where and where not I can DR...
I've DR'd plenty of packages in a bag and on a post, or over the gate... some areas in our center are directed to DR at the row of mailboxes at the end of the street!! quit SYH and deliver... lol
I've DR'd plenty of packages in a bag and on a post, or over the gate... some areas in our center are directed to DR at the row of mailboxes at the end of the street!! quit SYH and deliver... lol
Marne Vet
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Who called you a runner? I was talking about UpState with his terrible advice. He's an admitted runner, and his advice to DR a package over a fence in a DR bag is wrong. Unless it's OUT OF SIGHT & OUT OF WEATHER it's a bad DR. If you bag a package and drop it over a fence in plain sight you're wrong.
depends on your management team..
Marne Vet
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Wrong. It's a UPS method, not based on your Management team. That's like them telling you it's OK to not wear your seatbelt. It doesn't "depend on your management" team. Out of sight, and out of weather. *sigh* Unbelievable.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You have obviously never had a country/rural "trip".
upschuck
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Those are harder to leave in plain sight than city routes. Go up a driveway and deliver to porch, no one close enough to see.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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When I had my country run if I made the effort to get all the way up to their house there was no damn way I was not leaving the package.
Marne Vet
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You obviously have no idea how to properly DR a stop. The area doesn't change how to properly DR a package. It doesn't change in an Urban setting, or a Rural one. You don't DR anything in plain sight. The methods don't change because your area does. smh
upschuck
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If you made it to there house? Where would you leave it, by the road?
Marne Vet
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Out of sight, out of weather. Pretty simple. If you have to go all the way up to the door, and there's no place to leave it by the front door, then bag it, place it around back OUT OF SIGHT, and leave a notice so they know where you left it.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Of course not. What I said was if I made the effort to either drive or walk up their driveway there is no way that I am leaving without finding a safe place to leave the package.
upschuck
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OK, I read it a different way, that you didn't go up all the driveways.
Marne Vet
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I did. If a sup instructs you to do something like that, or anything that violates the methods, you do what the sup says, but you better also make a record of the incident either by taking a picture of the message, or the stop they instructed you to leave that was bad. When it comes time to give you a Warning letter for a complaint, or a missing package, they will suddenly get amnesia about what they told you to do.
