I dont wannaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[over9five]

Don't feed it.....

 

[bigbrownhen]

Talk to a Fed Ex ground employee about being non-union. What are their bennifits?

Unions and corporate are much like our government is supposed to be. Checks and balances.

There is a trend of an attitude of no loyalty in the business world today. The almighty dollar is the priority. Greed, selfishness, and complete disreguard on what is truely important in life. "I'll get mine and screw anyone who is in the way!" Lord help us all if that doesn't change.

Prime example is the lady with the pepper spray in an LA Walmart.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Unions at this point are weak and on the outs. Its not the union itself that is dying but its the fight of its employees.

 

[menotyou]

Unions at this point are weak and on the outs. Its not the union itself that is dying but its the fight of its employees.

our union should be actively reaching out.

 

[Bubblehead]

Talk to a Fed Ex ground employee about being non-union. What are their bennifits?

Unions and corporate are much like our government is supposed to be. Checks and balances.

There is a trend of an attitude of no loyalty in the business world today. The almighty dollar is the priority. Greed, selfishness, and complete disreguard on what is truely important in life. "I'll get mine and screw anyone who is in the way!" Lord help us all if that doesn't change.

Prime example is the lady with the pepper spray in an LA Walmart.

Somebody on the "Occupy" thread in the union forum posted this a while back.
Thought it was compelling and applicable here.

" A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess of the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."

Sir Alex Fraser Tytler ( 1742-1813 )
Scottish jurist and historian

 

[dilligaf]

yessir.

Well, company choose to utilize helpers and union drivers are bickering about filing grievance, how they don't like that helpers getting used before higher cost drivers are given more work. It doesn't take much thought to put two together that dollar-for-dollar, off the street helpers add more production than using union inflated rate employees.

If it didn't make financial sense to do so, corporate would put a halt on this itself, but the fact costlier employees are throwing a hissy fit through the union personnel over helpers shows helpers add enough value to operations to permit reducing the use of high rate employee.

What I had no idea until now is how much of the restrictions against helpers are caused by road blocks made by the union.


That's the impression I got.


Which means even off peak, around-the-year helper would permit some routes to be consolidated and cram more stops on the truck while still being able to meet same production quota while reducing the number of trucks on the road and saving cost and fuel.


If they utilized a $8.50/hr for 6 hours and can shave just 2 hrs, it would've still resulted in positive outcome.

Just reading the posts about seniority, union and grievance, it's clear that union is a huge obstacle in business operations and staying competitive.

​TROLL!!!!!

 

[dilligaf]

UPS is the largest delivery company in the world, we have been around for almost 100 years, and we have continued to be profitable even with the economy in the toilet....despite having what you call the "obstacle" of a union workforce.

You sound like a smart guy. Probably too darn smart to ever be a union delivery driver. You have brains, you have business savvy, and you have over two whole weeks of experience as a peak season helper under your belt. With an impressive resume like that, you should either (a) go into UPS management or (b) become a FedEx Ground subcontractor who owns his own route and gets to be his own boss. You have all the answers already, so what are you waiting for? Go show the rest of us how it ought to be done!

To smart, to much knowledge to be a simple helper............................... I'd bet he's already in management.

 

[Indecisi0n]

our union should be actively reaching out.

Reaching out to who?

 

[dilligaf]

Reaching out to who?

It sure the hell shouldn't be UPS and it seems like, more and more, that is exactly what is happening.