I Was discharged this morning help

[djohnson1722]

This morning I was notified by a supervisor of an up coming suspension in a not so friendly manner. I went to the bathroom for what was literally 30 secs to compose myself I work pre-load so tensions run high at this hour. Upon returning I asked my supervisor since I was being scolded about attendance would he happen to know when I was getting a check I never received from April ( this was not the wisest decision I know, but like I said tensions were running high and the new supe was really rude in the way he talked) well this seemed to extremely Irritate him. Looking back I should have just done what I have been doing for two years an taken the verbal abuse but something about this morning just wouldn't let me take it anymore. Well now he is angry and speaking very loudly( I never once raised my voice, he may not have appreciated my tone but I never was one for public drama so my inside voice remained in affect) he informs me to return to my work station and counts with his fingers to 3 he then asked for my ID an said I am being terminated. At this point I defused the situation by telling him I am returning to my work station no need for that. He accepts my submission an allows me back to my station. While I am at my station I still hear him and my union rep going back an forth, everyone does because the supervisor is now yelling. About 10 minutes later I am instructed to come down from my station by a higher power and told that I am being discharged and will be escorted off of the premises. I'm shocked at this point because the original supervisor had already let me back In my station and informed me to finish, basically he had dropped it but I guess the continued bickering back and forth with him and my union rep rubbed him the wrong way and made him go back on his original decision of letting me return to work. My union rep told me not to worry gave me a few numbers to call and to just inform them of the situation. He re assured me over and over do not worry I am not being fired. I just want opinions on what will likely happen next please no jokes serious answers only this all happened this morning so it is very much so still fresh. Sorry for the length thank you for reading.

 

[jaker]

First off why was you fired and how did you and the union rep go in the office and talk or what

A lot depends on what you was fired for so leaving that out doesn't help

 

[djohnson1722]

They claimed insubordination, we were never in an office this all happened in the un load right next to my work station.


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[jaker]

They claimed insubordination, we were never in an office this all happened in the un load right next to my work station.
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Where was your union rep when they told you , he should have been standing next to or side

Anyways it will not stick but get on the phone now and call those numbers

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You will be back after a brief unpaid vacation. Suspension, time served.


Resident know-it-all.

 

[Anonymous 11]

Are you in a right to work state?

 

[djohnson1722]

Yes my union rep was right next to me throughout the whole ordeal. He witnessed everything. I am In California at the San Bruno hub.


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[jaker]

Well get on the phone with you BA and get busy

 

[djohnson1722]

Yea i made the calls immediately after exiting the premises. The head rep I spoke to informed me he would notify me once he has dealt with the situation. In the meantime i can't do anything but wait for a call. I'm just hoping this thing doesn't stretch weeks to maybe even months, I've read horror stories.


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[Indecisi0n]

You will get your job back but now you need to push back a little to show them they can't get away with this BS and maybe file harassment. Talk to BA and go from there.

 

[Brownslave688]

You will be back after a brief unpaid vacation. Suspension, time served.


Resident know-it-all.

He deserves backpay and a vacation check from April (that should of been filed on a long time ago)

 

[djohnson1722]

Yea I know man, I'm too humble honestly I'm known as the guy who never gets mad I let the lower ranked supes talk to me crazy all the time. I just try to keep it drama free an collect my checks, for example after first being hired I stayed at 9.85 for a whole year when I was supposed to get a dollar raise after probation. I never filed grievance just patiently waited, I eventually got the back pay but that's just an example of how I'm kind of a push over up there after today tho I can understand the other workers daily complaining and multiple grievances. If you let the company walk on you they will they will show no mercy when it's your turn to get the short end of the stick no matter how much of a "nice guy" you've been. Thanks for the replies guys.


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[badpal.]

Not trying to kick a you while you're down but if you want to survive at UPS, you need to grow a pair. I'm not saying you need to go around picking fights and being a Billy Badass. Stand your ground on what's right and set the correct tone as to how you are approached by anyone...management or hourly.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

And stop giving them reasons to discipline you...like attendance problems.

 

[HEFFERNAN]

I really don't see anything in your story sounding like insubordination but you are pretty thin on the details about that upcoming suspension you started this thread with.

Let your union hall work on it and you'll be back in no time. There is a process they must follow and they jumped the gun by having you walked out.

 

[UPSGUY72]

What kind of attendance problem do you have ???? You left that part out. But apparently it's bad enough to going to get you suspended as that what your SUP was originally talking to you about.

 

[Ouch]

Not to come down on you either but it almost sounds like you are blaming your union steward for getting you fired. I've said it before and i will say it again. The hardest thing to represent is attendance. You have to come to work on time. With that the in subordinate claim seems more rediculous without the attendance issue.

 

[Jackburton]

Art 37 section 1

The Employer will treat employees with dignity and respect at all times, which shall include, but not be limited to, giving due consideration to the age and physical condition of the employee. Employees will also treat each other as well as the Employer with dignity and respect.

This is why you keep your cool and use thier emotions against them. He who has a level head wins.

 

[djohnson1722]

Few minutes tardy a few times, I don't have bad attendance but you're right a perfect attendance never hurt anyone. I was basically being told to not be tardy it was pretty routine, not blaming my rep he's cool I voted for him. The discharge occurred in short because I pissed the supervisor off at the wrong time, when being told about tardiness or whatever it may be it's not the best idea to add fuel to the fire by bringing up other issues during the shift. Bottom line I didn't like the way he was talking to me especially seeing as I never cause any trouble. There was no need to raise his voice while mine was still normal he is very un professional. Idk he is new so maybe he felt he had to "set an example" who knows I'm over it now I just want to get back to work an put this all behind me.


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[Cementups]

His attendance is irrelevant to being discharged for insubordination.

And the supervisor should definitely being having a talking to about how he is talking to you. I've walked away from many supervisors who like to yell. And when they yell at me for walking away I tell them, "when you're ready to talk like big people then we'll talk. But until then I bid thee farewell."

If you want my respect then you better give me some first.