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And a fine job you're doing. Carry on. Lol.
I was termed today.
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And a fine job you're doing. Carry on. Lol.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
You're like HR. Always coming in and ruining my fun.
If the mods had any compassion at all, they would lock and delete this dumpster fire of a thread and ban the OP.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
You sound like my district HR guy to my center manager.
"You should fire him. He can't keep running down the belt naked yelling "I'm faster the Usain Bolt!"
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BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Like me and I'm sure @Big Arrow Down...D would tell you....... Just keep your friend'n mouth shut, it will help you in the long run.......
BigUnionGuy
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Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Do you think that if he was a dues paying member the steward may have suggested that to him?
The steward may have enjoyed watching the scab hang himself.
The steward did his job. He was there to represent the scab. I never once heard the scab ask the steward for any advice pertaining to the questions.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
I won't listen to it. (life is to short)
But, I am guessing.... he didn't even ask to caucus with the Steward, for advice.
Some people, think they are so smart.
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I won't listen to it. (life is to short)
But, I am guessing.... he didn't even ask to caucus with the Steward, for advice.
Some people, think they are so smart.
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To be fair, how many hourlies even know that they have to right to meet privately with their steward before their hearing starts?
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
It wasn't a "hearing".
From the OP's (original and subsequent) post, it was an inquiry.
Based, on a complaint.
Right ?
To be fair....
I understand, what you are alluding too.
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clean hairy
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Those who are dues paying members of the Union might be advised of that by the Steward prior to the meeting.
1989
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Math is not my strong suit. Tried to type 27, but should have said 26.9.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
It was an "interview" to get the OP's side of the story. To find out if he did say what he was accused of saying and to find out what he meant by the statements.
A good steward, as soon as he found out what the line of questioning was, should have taken the OP outside and made it clear that it was going to be his word against the compaintants.
There are ways to not admit to what you said without outright calling the complaintant a liar.
And without admitting it, it is your word against his.
And while UPS may put more credence in the complaintants statement, it would not be enough for a discharge, or for a discharge to stick without the OP admitting it.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Life.... is full of choices.
The "best" we can do (representing the members) is offer advice.
What members do with that advice.... is on them.
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Isn't the company supposed to brief the union on what the charge(s) will be prior to the interview?
Is that what the NLRB asserts?
You can't fix stupid either... Some people just don't know when to shut up and let someone else do the talking. Someone that has know what works and doesn't....
PiedmontSteward
RTW-4-Less
That'd make my job a lot easier, but not quite.
During a pre-disciplinary/disciplinary interview, the manager must be willing to disclose the reason for the interview. They can't just pull someone into the office for a fishing expedition.
Perfect example of this would be the classic opener: "Do you know why you're here?"
A good steward will shut that down in a heartbeat.
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