barking dog
Member
Re: Rival union aims to replace Teamsters at UPS
I would like to point out that the pilots association (IPA) went for two years without a contract after leaving the Teamsters. How long could APWA survive with a situation like that? In 1997 they honored the strike line and now after two years of negotiations I would be surprised if they have the legal rights to honor another picket line. You don't hear anything from them on the successes of negotiations do you? The Miami Police and their association (IUPA) are affiliated with the AFL-CIO and have the power of that national organization behind them. My point here is that your two "better off" unions are associations not unions and at least one of them is affiliated with the AFL-CIO.
What has the APWA done? How do they expect to be able to stand alone against one of the biggest corporations in the world? How can they even begin to think that UPS will just give them a contract because they are there? Look at UPS did to the pilots.
APWA is playing a very serious game with the UPS'ers careers and financial stability (pensions) and any decision to change unions should be made with all of the information on the table and out front for them to investigate for themselves. APWA is hiding too much and not coming forward with the truth. For example who is footing the bills for the lawyers and national media campaigns? (Please don't insult us by trying to say that the money is rolling in from $150 charter member sign ups. We know better than that.)
Barking dog our pilots would be a better scenario on how success of leaving the teamsters. Your comparing apples to oranges ? You have a troubling airline situation to a Prospering package company ! I do not know the financials but the pilots are flying and not complaining about any pension wooo`s and health insurance issues ! Same goes for the miami,Fla police department - there fund is prospering because they don`t have to carry the heavy teamsters on their back - all the money goes to their plan as to paying the teamsters to do it ! Obviously there you have to prospering groups that are much happier and financially better off now - so as to say whatever you wish for you might get - bring it on !
I would like to point out that the pilots association (IPA) went for two years without a contract after leaving the Teamsters. How long could APWA survive with a situation like that? In 1997 they honored the strike line and now after two years of negotiations I would be surprised if they have the legal rights to honor another picket line. You don't hear anything from them on the successes of negotiations do you? The Miami Police and their association (IUPA) are affiliated with the AFL-CIO and have the power of that national organization behind them. My point here is that your two "better off" unions are associations not unions and at least one of them is affiliated with the AFL-CIO.
What has the APWA done? How do they expect to be able to stand alone against one of the biggest corporations in the world? How can they even begin to think that UPS will just give them a contract because they are there? Look at UPS did to the pilots.
APWA is playing a very serious game with the UPS'ers careers and financial stability (pensions) and any decision to change unions should be made with all of the information on the table and out front for them to investigate for themselves. APWA is hiding too much and not coming forward with the truth. For example who is footing the bills for the lawyers and national media campaigns? (Please don't insult us by trying to say that the money is rolling in from $150 charter member sign ups. We know better than that.)