It's Not Global Warming

vantexan

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The point is that as the weather patterns change, land that is not arable now can and will become arable. As for technology, I was watching a video about infusing desert land with microscopic clay to support mycorrhiza and begin building soil into the sand. Between that and regenerative agriculture we stand a chance at maintaining food production at levels high enough to support our population.

As for energy production, when enough people start having a hard time staying warm, resistance to newer nuclear technology and geothermal will start to drop and we'll have those bases covered. Being too warm isn't enough of a motivator to come up with cheaper and cleaner energy solutions, but being too cold sure will be. If we get that licked, green houses and aquaponic systems may become more viable as well. But that's just me, and I prefer to remain optimistic.
If you can get water to the desert. Too much rain in the Corn Belt doesn't necessarily translate into enough rain elsewhere. Besides rain you need a long enough growing season not cut short by hard freezes. A grand solar minimum will bring much colder temps that start earlier and end later than now. During the Maunder Minimum the Thames River in London froze solid. If our grain yields are greatly reduced we won't be able to raise livestock on the same scale we do now. It's not that there won't be any food, just shortages. With a population like ours that will lead to rationing. In exceptionally crowded countries could see mass starvation.
 

vantexan

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Grand Solar Minimum says nothing about rising CO2 emissions. All but one of the 16 hottest years in NASA’s 134-year record have occurred since 2000.

Intense snow storms nowadays are more frequent because of global warming. More large rain storms from the South randomly mixing with cold alberta clippers from the North.
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Hope this helps.
Actually volcanoes are putting much more CO2 into the air than humans are. And are you familiar with ENSO years? Years where there aren't El Nino's and La Nina's are called ENSO years. Basically neutral. And guess what? Most Category 5 Blizzards occur in ENSO years. And have been occurring since records have been kept. The "Storm of the Century" in 1993? ENSO year. They were having harsh blizzards in the 1800's. No, it's not CO2 emissions climate change. It's natural cycles of the Sun, and we're entering the worst manifestation of those cycles, the Grand Solar Minimum. The Sun puts out less energy during this cycle. We're coming out of a Solar Maximum.
 

bbsam

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What's cute is you like to refer to those on the Right as hicks and rubes, denying science. And yet here you are....
You don’t find it odd that these brilliant right wing scientists are just now floating this “theory”? After all these years?
 

bbsam

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Just mimicking the way your fellow LibTurbs (not that I consider you one) denigrate and make fun of Conservatives they don't agree with.
A little Tit-for Tat.
Remember this outrage you felt ... when you or your ilk say desultory things about Conservatives.

Both are silly, stupid and make the speaker look like a sleezy piece of s:censored2:t ... like Itzy, Sporty or MFE.
Your “mimicking” only goes one way. That makes you an contservative.
 

vantexan

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We'll just have to see, won't we? No matter what happens far Leftists will be saying it's CO2 emissions causing it therefore we must centralize and control everything everyone does. And the Maunder Minimum did cause crop failures and famine. Climate change proponents say that soon the climate in NYC will be comparable to Arkansas due to warming. In actuality it will get colder.
 

vantexan

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You are either “open minded” and “we’ll see” or you’ve latched on to your own “climate science” and “in actuality it’s going to get colder”.

Which is it?
Grand solar Minimums aren't pseudoscience. Very real, very well documented. But we've never had one with this large a population. If you think it's no big deal so be it. We'll see.
 

bbsam

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Grand solar Minimums aren't pseudoscience. Very real, very well documented. But we've never had one with this large a population. If you think it's no big deal so be it. We'll see.
But you want to say it’s either one or the other. If science says both are active, well one we can do something about, the other we can’t.
 

vantexan

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But you want to say it’s either one or the other. If science says both are active, well one we can do something about, the other we can’t.
We can certainly prepare for a GSM. The issue I have with the climate change advocates is that the U.S. is dwarfed in CO2 emissions by China and India. A tiny fraction of the plastic waste in the Pacific is from the U.S.. Yet the Paris Agreement puts much greater restrictions on us than China or India. Climate Change advocates insist we must have centralized government here to control emissions. Ultimately it's just a power grab by those who believe they can get socialism right. Meanwhile the planet is no better off.
 

vantexan

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No, sunspots are real. You tying GW, climate or other effects unequivocally to sunspot action/solar mins and calling it clad is not.
Hmm, except solar minimums are known for greatly reduced sunspot activity. An indication that the Sun isn't putting out as much energy. Thus the colder temps.
 
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