Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Jkloc420, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    Do you think union members will ever vote for jumpers to be used year round. Good way for part time workers to pick up hours. Of course seniority would have to be honored. What are the drivers thoughts on this. I know in the last contract it was discussed but eventually they removed it from the contract.
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    We will never have that option. This is a side deal worked out between the company and union.
  3. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    They are used year-round in some areas.
  4. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Don't jump it's never really that bad.
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    Lead Belly BANNED

  6. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    I was told that year round helpers are currently paid Top driver wage if used outside peak; I could see a provision being added like 1 out of every 15 routes can have a helper just.like the 2 routes starting at noon provision in the current contract
  7. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    No. If I need a jumper year round then they need to add more routes and let my part time brothers have the opportunity at a full time position.
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  8. HardknocksUPSer

    HardknocksUPSer Well-Known Member

    Winner winner chicken dinner! Good post!
  9. Dr.Brownz

    Dr.Brownz Well-Known Member

    Some places use helpers year round for large mall complexes. The helper is a FT driver technically though.
  10. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Local 804 has 22.3s that are helpers.
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  11. Orion inc.

    Orion inc. I like turtles

    And then you'll wonder "where are all the new driver jobs"? You think route cutting is bad now, add jumpers and you'll eliminate half the routes in a center.

    Good way for part timers to stay part time and screw themselves out of a FT driver job
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  12. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Only if they were created as part of a 22.3 job as they've done in Local 804.

    Using a $10/hr driver helper year-round would make the waiting list to go FT ridiculous. Created a few 22.3s for the heaviest routes for preload/driver helper with someone topping out around $30/hour wouldn't be so bad.
  13. burrheadd

    burrheadd Creepy pervert

    Screw that put some more full time seniority drivers on
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  14. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    A FT driver can handle fluctuations in volume easier than a driver/helper combination.
  15. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    Seems we got a lot of seasonal drivers to screw us out of full time work. I see the jobs posted on monster.com all the time. Which seems to be what ups is doing. Not sure how they can get around hiring tons of seasonal people and putting up one full time driver job. Don't make a lot of sense does it.
  16. Tough Guy

    Tough Guy Active Member

    I agree with this. I desperately wanted to be a helper year round before I was able to drive.

    On a side note, the experience I gained as a helper was a huge help to me when i went driving. Already knew the Diad, had some area knowledge from the routes I helped on, etc.
  17. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    The last part is dead on. Being a helper helps prepare you tremendously for what being a driver is like.
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Two of my helpers became drivers.
  19. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it.

    BTW, Dave, so did two of mine.
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Mine were in this century.
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