Let's make it simple.

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So you're trying to tell me that Republicans are the ONLY people who live the lives you described? (lmao) . You don't HAVE to sign up for a single New Deal or Great Society program if you don't believe in them. But you consercucks do it anyway. So you tell me, if they don't believe in them and are constantly spitting out their anti Democrat venom then why do they still happily enroll in them?
Those are the law of the land and have been such long before many of us were born. And in no way resemble the New Green Deal your side is proposing now.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
So you're trying to tell me that Republicans are the ONLY people who live the lives you described? (lmao) . You don't HAVE to sign up for a single New Deal or Great Society program if you don't believe in them. But you consercucks do it anyway. So you tell me, if they don't believe in them and are constantly spitting out their anti Democrat venom then why do they still happily enroll in them?
Simply refund all forced contributions with interest and you’ll have your solution. Taxes are levied for the common good, not just for the benefit of the teat suckers.

Your social programs would fail if they were voluntary.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
So you're trying to tell me that Republicans are the ONLY people who live the lives you described? (lmao) . You don't HAVE to sign up for a single New Deal or Great Society program if you don't believe in them. But you consercucks do it anyway. So you tell me, if they don't believe in them and are constantly spitting out their anti Democrat venom then why do they still happily enroll in them?

No..you can achieve the so called American Dream even if you are a Democrat, the problem is that your platform and candidates promotes a central, all knowing federal dependence on social programs that will never work.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
No..you can achieve the so called American Dream even if you are a Democrat, the problem is that your platform and candidates promotes a central, all knowing federal dependence on social programs that will never work.
Social Security has been around for 85 years. I'd say that it has worked pretty well. Medicare has been around for 55 years. Federal support for public education has been around for about as long. The federal interstate highway system has been in existence for 65 years and seems to meet the needs by and large. The FDA and USDA does a pretty good job of keeping your food and prescriptions safe and given that they serve the public as a whole they too are every bit the social program you condemn.

Sure you can spit out your hard line conservative venom all you want but you're not fooling anybody because in the end you'll swallow your pride and enroll in every program you can qualify for. Especially if you're running out of money.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Simply refund all forced contributions with interest and you’ll have your solution. Taxes are levied for the common good, not just for the benefit of the teat suckers.

Your social programs would fail if they were voluntary.
Retire at 66 and by the time you reach age 70 you will have withdrawn your entire Social Security contribution. Remember when Bush had the big idea if privatizing Social Security? The banks didn't want to have to manage millions of small balance accounts because the management fees they would have to charger would take an unacceptable amount of the principle and those accounts would serve as nothing more than piggy banks people would be drawing from or borrowing against. Then came the Bush Recession and you don't hear a thing these days about the idea.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Social Security has been around for 85 years. I'd say that it has worked pretty well. Medicare has been around for 55 years. Federal support for public education has been around for about as long. The federal interstate highway system has been in existence for 65 years and seems to meet the needs by and large. The FDA and USDA does a pretty good job of keeping your food and prescriptions safe and given that they serve the public as a whole they too are every bit the social program you condemn.

Sure you can spit out your hard line conservative venom all you want but you're not fooling anybody because in the end you'll swallow your pride and enroll in every program you can qualify for. Especially if you're running out of money.

Social Security and Medicare are paid for by their future participants, much like pensions or 401k’s. I am talking about these New Democratic “tax the rich and feed the poor, till there is no more” programs that Biden is expounding. I see more venomous dogma coming from the left than from the right. These liberal led corporations knows just how incompetent a Biden administration will be and will find all kinds of loopholes to get out paying extra taxes.
 
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Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Social Security has been around for 85 years. I'd say that it has worked pretty well. Medicare has been around for 55 years. Federal support for public education has been around for about as long. The federal interstate highway system has been in existence for 65 years and seems to meet the needs by and large. The FDA and USDA does a pretty good job of keeping your food and prescriptions safe and given that they serve the public as a whole they too are every bit the social program you condemn.

Sure you can spit out your hard line conservative venom all you want but you're not fooling anybody because in the end you'll swallow your pride and enroll in every program you can qualify for. Especially if you're running out of money.
Five incentives carried out within the U.S. rank among the world’s largest socialist undertakings:

• The Social Security Administration, an independent agency of the Federal Government, was established in 1935. With an annual budget approaching $750 billion, it now is the world’s largest agency of its sort.

• The Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944, popularly called the G.I. Bill, offered extensive benefits to returning World War II veterans. The benefits included higher education for millions of veterans, many of whom would not otherwise have been able to afford it. Economic historians consider the G.I. Bill to be the incentive that raised the level of human capital that in turn supported the country’s long-term economic growth.

• The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 funded the Interstate Highway System, then the largest ever public works project in the U.S.

• From 2008 on, the Federal Government poured $200 billion into the Federal National Mortgage Association (“Fannie Mae”) and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (“Freddie Mac”) to rescue and then nationalize them.

• In October 2008, the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was enacted. It authorized government expenditure of $700 billion to buy up “toxic assets” choking the financial system.


How much more socialism can we afford?
 

PT Car Washer

Well-Known Member
Five incentives carried out within the U.S. rank among the world’s largest socialist undertakings:

• The Social Security Administration, an independent agency of the Federal Government, was established in 1935. With an annual budget approaching $750 billion, it now is the world’s largest agency of its sort.

• The Servicemen’s Readjustment Act of 1944, popularly called the G.I. Bill, offered extensive benefits to returning World War II veterans. The benefits included higher education for millions of veterans, many of whom would not otherwise have been able to afford it. Economic historians consider the G.I. Bill to be the incentive that raised the level of human capital that in turn supported the country’s long-term economic growth.

• The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 funded the Interstate Highway System, then the largest ever public works project in the U.S.

• From 2008 on, the Federal Government poured $200 billion into the Federal National Mortgage Association (“Fannie Mae”) and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (“Freddie Mac”) to rescue and then nationalize them.

• In October 2008, the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) was enacted. It authorized government expenditure of $700 billion to buy up “toxic assets” choking the financial system.


How much more socialism can we afford?
Are you criticizing theses programs or applauding them?
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Trying not to catch the trump virus and die like 225,000 Americans. Don't worry like a miracle it will just go away. Come January trump will just go away.
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