wkmac
Well-Known Member
Free is one way to see it but for me it's about getting what you want at other people's expense. Coercion if you will by other means.
I'm having another "WEIRD" moment it seems.
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Free is one way to see it but for me it's about getting what you want at other people's expense. Coercion if you will by other means.
I'm having another "WEIRD" moment it seems.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Good clarification and specifics.Free is one way to see it but for me it's about getting what you want at other people's expense. Coercion if you will by other means.
I'm having another "WEIRD" moment it seems.
Definitely coercion.
Every moment is a weird moment.
oldngray
nowhere special
fixed it for you
capitalism, state socialism, slavery and feudalism are ALL about taking money from workers who earned it and giving it to people who havent.
coercion applies to capitalism, state socialism, slavery and feudalism right?Free is one way to see it but for me it's about getting what you want at other people's expense. Coercion if you will by other means.
I'm having another "WEIRD" moment it seems.
i was talking to my boss and i think he said he was born in Afghanistan but he lived in california for i cant remember how long and i believe is a dual national; anyways he said hes a conservative and he voted liberal because there wasnt a conservative option. whats interesting though was i was talking to him about capitalism and socialism and hes very critical of capitalism like exploitation he specifically mentioned china low pay and terrible work / living conditions (i think its not that different from slavery) and i mentioned to him how centralized corporate capitalism and state socialism are and how workers shouldnt rent themselves for an hourly wage, they should own the fruits of their labor and he agreed.
maybe im wrong but i feel like if you point out centralization of capitalism and how its not that different from other economic systems and how workers should own their own labour, alot of conservatives would partly or completely agree.
its just common sense.
maybe im wrong but i feel like if you point out centralization of capitalism and how its not that different from other economic systems and how workers should own their own labour, alot of conservatives would partly or completely agree.
its just common sense.
oldngray
nowhere special
i know
you like centralized power as long as its corporations controlling you, but not state socialism centralized power.btw ralph nader defines freedom as "participation in power"
hey since you like corporate centralized power so much, in theory you are more in favor of walmart which gives orders to 2.1 million employees and gets all kinds of subsidies (and probably bailouts if it were failing) rather than theoretically saying iceland were to go state socialist which is only a population of 330,000 which would also get bailouts and government money?
im saying either way you are screwed
newfie
Well-Known Member
chesteron must not have traveled much or did not pay attention when he did
wkmac
Well-Known Member
This suggests you are not familiar with Chesterton. You should, the quote above aside, you'll like a lot of what he has to say.
Sportello
Well-Known Member
newfie
Well-Known Member
yep you're right I disagree with this particular quote .
newfie
Well-Known Member
the peyote must be strong tonight.
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Mike GravelVerified account @MikeGravel Apr 9
Our "centrists" are so bad because our country's politics is so conservative. In other parts of the world, it's not "centrist" to support bombings, the carceral state, and extreme inequality. It's a far-right stance. Call these "centrists" what they are - reactionaries.
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Mike GravelVerified account @MikeGravel Apr 9
Our "centrists" are so bad because our country's politics is so conservative. In other parts of the world, it's not "centrist" to support bombings, the carceral state, and extreme inequality. It's a far-right stance. Call these "centrists" what they are - reactionaries.
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