Local Officials to Vote On UPS & UPS Freight Deals on August 9

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MenInBrown, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    What is the point of them voting on it?
     
  2. From them to offer the contract to the general membership
     
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  3. mikejonesjr

    mikejonesjr Active Member

    which local? where did you see this
     
  4. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    I got an email. I’m local 391. Atlantic supplement. Says you will have 2 votes. 1 for master and 1 for supplements.
     
  5. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

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  6. mikejonesjr

    mikejonesjr Active Member

    Well that's sooner than I expected. Hope some locals have sense to go against it
     
  7. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    What happens if the 2 local officials vote no?
     
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    If the majority of the 2-committee members vote no, back to the table.
     
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  9. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Highly doubt the locals would vote no as their vote is just to present it to the members, not a vote against it really.
     
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  10. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    They always have a 2 person meetings for the contracts. So if the locals don't approve it doesn't go to us. Though I'm sure that never happens.
     
  11. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    We were fortunate to have a union meeting this month where we could voice our displeasure toward the national master agreement.
    Our local executive board voted to not recommend the national master. I assume this would cause a no vote at the 2 person meeting.
     
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  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    What I see as an unprecedented new wrinkle, is that this "tentative/handshake agreement" has been released to the membership prior to the "Two Man Meeting"???

    It will be interesting to see what, if any Locals, choose to have a "special meeting" during this typically "dark" summer period to actually caucus their members....

    ....then have the stones to vote accordingly at this "Two Man Meeting".



    ~Bbbl~
     
  13. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    With how deeply politics are entrenched in the IBT, most everyone in the leadership of the locals has an incentive to pander to the current leadership by supporting the contract regardless of whether they know it's a bad deal or not...
     
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  14. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    ...although there do still exist people with integrity who actually have the best interests of the membership at heart rather than a fast path up the ladder to power.
     
  15. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    I know that UPS wants to pander to the PTs to try and get this crap to pass, but what the union needs to be aware of, is those PTs don’t care about the union elections. Remember Teamsters, these people you are selling out, are the same ones that will vote your ass out of office. Put your name on this crap and you are sealing your fate to be unemployed. Bye Felecia.
     
  16. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    For some the concern is the possible ramifications will be suffered by members (at panels) if the official "steps out".
    Yep...but yet at the 2013 two man meeting, the leading vote no local officials were conspicuously silent, that is until they left the meeting and were safely in the confines of their home locals.
    Analysis paralysis??? Or just politics?
     
  17. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Yep.

    Some will go along, to get along.



    Politics.

    Because, the vote was unanimous.


    Which is funny now....

    Because Fred Z is recommending yes for the Local 89 rider (that he negotiated).

    But, I've read it and it's nothing earth shattering and what is conspicuously missing

    is any language addressing the whole "shuttle" issue that was such a bid deal last time.



    -Bug-
     
  18. STL Cards

    STL Cards New Member

    What is

    Up

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    The

    Spacing

    ???
     
  19. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    Has he “officially” come out to recommend a no vote on the national contract???
     
  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    He does it for Cardinal fans. They see a lot of words and they get scared. So he breaks it up so it looks like less reading.

    He's been doing it for years. I don't know why. :)