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pkg handler

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Some of the ones I know sure seem CONTEMPT for sure---Thanks for the laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!

of course some occasional complaining.. but for the most part it seems there are a lot of 21 and under guys here and they are just here for the extra pocket money really..sounds absurd but it is what it is
 

Storm723

Preload Supervisor
pkg handler-

Have you thought about becoming a HAZMAT Responder? Also if you took the tests and passed that means that you never have to take them again. Irrelevant of whether they "say" there is a hiring freeze, make sure you put your letter of intent in. That not only informs your management of your interest, it is also forwarded to HR so that everone in your region is aware that you are looking to go PT SUP. Either way...Stay Persistant.
 

drewed

Shankman
pkg handler-

Have you thought about becoming a HAZMAT Responder? Also if you took the tests and passed that means that you never have to take them again. Irrelevant of whether they "say" there is a hiring freeze, make sure you put your letter of intent in. That not only informs your management of your interest, it is also forwarded to HR so that everone in your region is aware that you are looking to go PT SUP. Either way...Stay Persistant.

A lot of places dont have a "designated responder" position for the building, they are just everyday hourlies that are trained in designated responder training, and that way they wouldnt have to pay him as skilled labor. He's already put in his letter due to him passing his test and those would expire if he changes his intent from pt sup to a ft or a specialist also they expire on the last day of the year
 

pkg handler

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pkg handler-

Have you thought about becoming a HAZMAT Responder? Also if you took the tests and passed that means that you never have to take them again. Irrelevant of whether they "say" there is a hiring freeze, make sure you put your letter of intent in. That not only informs your management of your interest, it is also forwarded to HR so that everone in your region is aware that you are looking to go PT SUP. Either way...Stay Persistant.

yea my letter of intent was put in around march i believe .. thats before the test .. we are a large center ( metro area over 1 million ) so im sure we do have a hazmat responder on the premises or a job of that caliber
 

Storm723

Preload Supervisor
I actually took my MAPP test first to make sure I qualified. I passed for all four job (PT/FT SUP and PT/FT TECH). After I passed I put in my letter of intent, yes the letter expires on the last day of the year (31 DEC) and you have to update it. There are always HAZMAT classes going on..so ask them when the next one is. According to the OSHA Agreements there are supposed to be so many responders per shift. So it may be worth looking into, especially if you are working a hub that big.
 

pkg handler

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well I was told after work ( 9:00 ) to stay in the building . The center manager came up to me around 9:30 and asked if i wa still interested in part time supervising. I said yes i was and he explained some things , and we got into salry and all and he asked if i would like to supervise the belt im on now and I said yea definately.. he said he'd have more info during the week and that I would start on mon.
 

Storm723

Preload Supervisor
well I was told after work ( 9:00 ) to stay in the building . The center manager came up to me around 9:30 and asked if i wa still interested in part time supervising. I said yes i was and he explained some things , and we got into salry and all and he asked if i would like to supervise the belt im on now and I said yea definately.. he said he'd have more info during the week and that I would start on mon.

Congrats...you will either love it or hate it...lol. I do have one suggestion for you though. That would be to NOT supervise the belt you are currently working. It makes it an easier transition for you working on a different belt than where you actually came from. You can alwasy go back to it...later once your peers see that you were promoted but initially they will challange you every chance they get b/c your new. Plus these are the people you have been working with for however long and you have to be able to re-establish yourself as a leader (even if you always were) not a co-worker.

:thumbsup:Best of luck to ya!!
 

pkg handler

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Congrats...you will either love it or hate it...lol. I do have one suggestion for you though. That would be to NOT supervise the belt you are currently working. It makes it an easier transition for you working on a different belt than where you actually came from. You can alwasy go back to it...later once your peers see that you were promoted but initially they will challange you every chance they get b/c your new. Plus these are the people you have been working with for however long and you have to be able to re-establish yourself as a leader (even if you always were) not a co-worker.

:thumbsup:Best of luck to ya!!

well i want to stay on my belt because i know where all the stops go.. all the loaders here go by the pal .. some have none and you need to go by adress and i know a majority of the add's on which truck .. plus I have been on the belt for a while and know how it works
 

cino321

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I like how these guys think they got promoted. In my building the full time sups go around begging part timers to become sups because they are short supervisors, no one wants in.
 

pkg handler

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I like how these guys think they got promoted. In my building the full time sups go around begging part timers to become sups because they are short supervisors, no one wants in.

well if by these guys you mean me.. then yes it is a promotion in my building . There are p/t who put in letters and fail the test constantly.. i know lol ...but every p/t supe i asked said the job is worth it .. in my center alot of the p/t supes even go driving after some yrs too .. seen it happen to 2 of them already .. so its not all bad
 

bellesotico

BOXstar
well if by these guys you mean me.. then yes it is a promotion in my building . There are p/t who put in letters and fail the test constantly.. i know lol ...but every p/t supe i asked said the job is worth it .. in my center alot of the p/t supes even go driving after some yrs too .. seen it happen to 2 of them already .. so its not all bad

Would that be because they are going for a full time sup job though?
Maybe I'm way wrong..but I don't get how a p/t sup could jump into a full time driver spot even after years.
 

pkg handler

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Would that be because they are going for a full time sup job though?
Maybe I'm way wrong..but I don't get how a p/t sup could jump into a full time driver spot even after years.

why not .. ? I've seen it happen a guy who ran a boxline like 1 or 2 over near the front of the building recently ( like 4 months ago ) went driving from being a p/t supe and another one is starting the transition now. Some say its harder to go from mnge. to driver then going from part time to full time union .. I think it equals out but it favors the union ppl in the end a bit I suppose
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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It is not uncommon for P/T sups to accept a driving position, just as it is not uncommon for a driver to accept a mgt position. My on-car drove for 15 years. I know, the adage of "those who can't drive-- supervise" will be brought up, but he was actually a very good driver who made what at the time was a good career move for him as the stock options alone put his 2 daughters and will put his son through college. However, he has told me that if given the choice today, with the way the company is being run (in to the ground?), he would have stayed a driver without a doubt.
 

bellesotico

BOXstar
why not .. ? I've seen it happen a guy who ran a boxline like 1 or 2 over near the front of the building recently ( like 4 months ago ) went driving from being a p/t supe and another one is starting the transition now. Some say its harder to go from mnge. to driver then going from part time to full time union .. I think it equals out but it favors the union ppl in the end a bit I suppose


I'm aware that drivers jump into sup/mgmt jobs. It just seems like...say you hired in off the street as a p/t sup. I don't see how they could go from that to full time driver without any driving first.
But then again..I have only been with ups for a year. I really wouldnt know..lol
 

pkg handler

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It is not uncommon for P/T sups to accept a driving position, just as it is not uncommon for a driver to accept a mgt position. My on-car drove for 15 years. I know, the adage of "those who can't drive-- supervise" will be brought up, but he was actually a very good driver who made what at the time was a good career move for him as the stock options alone put his 2 daughters and will put his son through college. However, he has told me that if given the choice today, with the way the company is being run (in to the ground?), he would have stayed a driver without a doubt.
I hope to some day down the road to become a driver .. it seems in this building for union its part time then full time then driver ( the process could take any number of yrs ) for mngt it seems you can jump from p/t supe to driver down the road also.. seems like the right choice for me now as I need the extra tuition money and the increase money. Im on really good terms with the center manager and he kinda has taken me under his wing . When i first came i was cocky, disgruntled , just all out a unhappy person , but i worked my ass off and got the rep for being the best loader this side of the building. He worked with from the beginning when there were times I could have been disciplined but wasnt either. Now I'm in a position to do something more after 8 months here and to move up and hopefully one day become a driver
 

Storm723

Preload Supervisor
Our NECK OF THE WOODS is very congested with traffic. I can't stand traffic, props to the drivers that drive in it all everyday. I think after a few weeks I would go nuts. Props to the drivers who not only drive in the traffic but drive 8-9-10-11 hours a day in it.
:cheers:
 
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