Nice pay raise they give to themselves

[Catatonic]

I would guarantee that the thousands of management here at ups get paid much better than their counterparts at FedEx and the post office... Except for Fred S....I don't think management is going broke any time soon

Don't be so sure.

 

[Coldworld]

When I started preloaders were paid $.50/hr less then drivers and unloaders were paid $1.05/hr less then preloaders or sorters because we were all Teamsters working in a Union shop.

Part timers have the numbers... Just need to wake them up....

 

[Catatonic]

When I started preloaders were paid $.50/hr less then drivers and unloaders were paid $1.05/hr less then preloaders or sorters because we were all Teamsters working in a Union shop.

And then the drivers sold the part-timers down the creek just like they did the retirees.
You ain't a Brother or a Sister unless you are an actively working UPS driver ... not even the UPS Freight drivers are included.

 

[Coldworld]

Don't be so sure.

Why do you say that... You think a on road sup makes less than some peon driver sup at FedEx??? Maybe when you get up to the top, the cream of the crop, but for the middle and bottom feeders I would think ups probably pays more... Ya gotta, to put up with this bs day in and day out

 

[Catatonic]

Doesn't bother me one bit. I don't run the company, I'm just a driver. And I am paid fairly for what I do

You're just a FT Package Car Donkey!

 

[Coldworld]

And then the drivers sold the part-timers down the creek just like they did the retirees.
You ain't a Brother or a Sister unless you are an actively working UPS driver ... not even the UPS Freight drivers are included.

You ain't a true brother or sista' unless you are a feeder driver... Get it right lol

 

[MAKAVELI]

Why do you say that... You think a on road sup makes less than some peon driver sup at FedEx??? Maybe when you get up to the top, the cream of the crop, but for the middle and bottom feeders I would think ups probably pays more... Ya gotta, to put up with this bs day in and day out

What does an on road sup make at UPS?

 

[Coldworld]

You're just a FT Package Car Donkey!

Isn't it funny how when ups people are talking it's always stated that they are "full time" driver or "part time" air driver.... So much emphasis is put on being full time or part time...I've even seen that on this site... Including with management

 

[Coldworld]

What does an on road sup make at UPS?

I'm sure it's all different across the board but there are ones who make 100k...I'm sure at FedEx they aren't making that

 

[Catatonic]

Isn't it funny how when ups people are talking it's always stated that they are "full time" driver or "part time" air driver.... So much emphasis is put on being full time or part time...I've even seen that on this site... Including with management

I've noticed and it's even more noticeable at contract time.

BTW - FT Package Car Donkey is his signature ... I meant nothing by it.

 

[Catatonic]

I'm sure it's all different across the board but there are ones who make 100k...I'm sure at FedEx they aren't making that

Hardly ... maybe $80k max and they were grandfathered in under the old salary structure.
New sups will be lucky to break $65k/year not counting their stock which they can't (realistically) touch until they retire ... it's the new UPS Management retirement plan.

 

[Catatonic]

Why do you say that... You think a on road sup makes less than some peon driver sup at FedEx??? Maybe when you get up to the top, the cream of the crop, but for the middle and bottom feeders I would think ups probably pays more... Ya gotta, to put up with this bs day in and day out

One of the big reasons that drivers are not going into management is there is no take-home pay differential.

 

[Catatonic]

Part timers have the numbers... Just need to wake them up....

So did the Afro-Americans in the early 1900's in the South.
Then they woke up.

 

[Coldworld]

So true. $10/hr for 3 hours a day or $9/hr for 6 hours a day. When you have bills to pay that weekly check is the whole picture.

Well hopefully everybody will slowly be getting more money thanks to cities and states raising the minimum wages....I guess it's a start and might take some time to trickle down to the southern states but its starting to happen... Maybe the union can learn something from it..

 

[Catatonic]

What does an on road sup make at UPS?

Old-timers probably $80k ... newbies maybe $65k.

 

[Coldworld]

I do think they should be given the choice to forgo their benefits for the added pay.

Ok upstate... Thanks.... Lol I'm sure he was pi$$ed that he didn't say it first for the hundredth time

 

[MAKAVELI]

I'm sure it's all different across the board but there are ones who make 100k...I'm sure at FedEx they aren't making that

Yea I would guess our ops management isn't making 100k but some may come close in high paying markets with long tenure. I wouldn't doubt our executive management is close to UPS if not more. We are a very top heavy company when it comes to executive compensation.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Old-timers probably $80k ... newbies maybe $65k.

Sounds pretty comparable to our ops managers.

 

[Coldworld]

One of the big reasons that drivers are not going into management is there is no take-home pay differential.

We have had drivers go into mgt... In my experience it's the kissers, the ones who get hurt and can't do the physical work, or ones who get fired and ups needs someone to fill a slot and a deal is cut....

 

[Catatonic]

We have had drivers go into mgt... In my experience it's the kissers, the ones who get hurt and can't do the physical work, or ones who get fired and ups needs someone to fill a slot and a deal is cut....

Perhaps your judgment is skewed.