sealbasher
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ive been in my run for 15 years id give it up in a heart beat.Im tired of handling 600 pgks a day.
This is ironic in that the baseline route, at least in my center, is bid as the training route, so new drivers basically get thrown right in to the fire as they get trained on one of the tougher routes in the bldg. The driver that bids this route as his own has to either cover other areas (vacations, days off, extra areas) or may be allowed to work in the hub to get his hours or stays home if there is no work during the 30 days that the new driver is on his route. That rarely happens as there is always more than enough work available.
I hit my 2 year mark as a full time driver today... in my center we have 18 to 20 routes depending on volume that gets ran daily... Problem is I only know 3 of them, and they are all base line routes.
The dispatch tomorrow has me running the same old base route I run pretty much every day, the full time driver under me us running an extended route. A utility driver who is 3 spots under me is also running an extended route which he got 4 days of full training on WITH the driver that bid the route...
But the kicker is the very bottom utility driver who is 5 spots down from me who they use maybe twice a month if that... he's being trained tomorrow on a extended route. Obviously they are'nt gonna really train him, it's just gonna be him running the packages and the on road driving.
So what... if anything can I do? I'm told according to the contract there is nothing that I can use with the seniority case, and management can train whoever/how they want.
Any suggesions?
New Englander, do yourself a favor--read the entire post before you reply. I stated in my post that the training route is bid with the stipulation that the bid driver has to go off this route for the 30 days that they are training a driver. During that 30 day period the bid driver has the option of either covering vacations, running an extra, bumping the lowest seniority driver, working on the inside (if volume dictates), or taking a day(s) off. I don't know where you got seasonal driver out of anything that I had posted but, had I posted that then, yes, you are right, seasonal drivers cannot bump the bid driver off of the training route. The driver who has the current bid on the training route has been covering vacations as our center is currently training my former preloader, who is actually doing quite well and should have no problem qualifying. Unfortunately, his replacement should be working at McDonald's rather than UPS for all the motivation he has.
600 boxes a day, aye? Must be runnin' all of Canada!ive been in my run for 15 years id give it up in a heart beat.Im tired of handling 600 pgks a day.
Isn't it brutal losing a preloader, especially a good one. I used to cuss my preloader up and down when he first started, but in no time he became the best loader I ever had. I was happy for him when he got promoted, but upset I had to train another loader. I got hurt right after he started driving, so my old loader has been running my rte for the past 2 years, and he had to train the new loader. He called me all the time telling me how bad his loader sucked and I just laughed and laughed! oh, and as far as cover drivers go, thats just UPSs' way of screwing a guy out of a full time job! It's what used to be a swing driver, minus the wage progression!New Englander, do yourself a favor--read the entire post before you reply. I stated in my post that the training route is bid with the stipulation that the bid driver has to go off this route for the 30 days that they are training a driver. During that 30 day period the bid driver has the option of either covering vacations, running an extra, bumping the lowest seniority driver, working on the inside (if volume dictates), or taking a day(s) off. I don't know where you got seasonal driver out of anything that I had posted but, had I posted that then, yes, you are right, seasonal drivers cannot bump the bid driver off of the training route. The driver who has the current bid on the training route has been covering vacations as our center is currently training my former preloader, who is actually doing quite well and should have no problem qualifying. Unfortunately, his replacement should be working at McDonald's rather than UPS for all the motivation he has.
ive been in my run for 15 years id give it up in a heart beat.Im tired of handling 600 pgks a day.
It really sucks when a person who just likes to do a good job, and usually tries to put 110% into their job, has to start caring less, and only giving 100% at the most, all because they get taken advantage of. Even being in management, I have experienced this.
A person has the right based on senoruty to run a certain route as a daily need requires....screw those "bid" list that is the beauty of being a swing driver ...if Joe Blow is running a cake route and calls in on friday a swing driver with senority should be able to take that route for that day!!!!! DON'T LOCK YOURSELF INTO A BS ROUTE FOR A WEEK!!!! BCThis time of year our center posts the vacations for the following week and cover drivers can bid on running them according to seniority. If you bid on something you don't know though, they won't train you and you'll have to go out in the blind.
This is part our contract, just not sure if it's the local or master. Ask your shop steward about it, or if you don't have one call the local and ask to speak to the business agent.
NE, it's called a cliche. Although the math doesn't justify it, I still like to say that "I gave them 110%."
It is not in nat'l master agreement, but it is in our local supplement.Could someone please post the article in the contract that states that a driver can bid a training route and then be bumped off from said route. Not saying it is not in there, but I think the company has sold a bill of goods to drivers who believe whatever they are told.
Could someone please post the article in the contract that states that a driver can bid a training route and then be bumped off from said route. Not saying it is not in there, but I think the company has sold a bill of goods to drivers who believe whatever they are told.
The supplement where I am does not spell it out that clearly. It does say they can have a training area, but it does not say that it will be a bid job and that the driver will be bumped off at their discretion.This is what it says in the Western Supplement:
ARTICLE 8 - TRAINING AREAS
In order to provide for more favorable training for new employees, the Company shall designate
certain areas in each center to be used as training areas. Once designated, these areas shall not be
changed until discussed with the Local involved. These areas shall be subject to the job bidding
procedure. Employees who presently hold bid areas will not have their bid changed as a result of
this provision. (This provision shall not be applicable to Local 396).
Employees who bid training areas will be removed from those areas when it becomes necessary
to train on those areas.
1-15 PACKAGE CAR DRIVERS - 1 TRAINING AREA
16-30 PACKAGE CAR DRIVERS - 2 TRAINING AREAS
31-45 PACKAGE CAR DRIVERS - 3 TRAINING AREAS
46-60 PACKAGE CAR DRIVERS - 4 TRAINING AREAS
It is the intention of the parties that part-time employees who accept full-time package car
positions will remain on a given training route for the duration of the training period.