Obama in 08'

Slothrop

Well-Known Member
Sammie, and Toonertoo, for falling for this,

Is Barack Obama a Muslim? - Netlore Archive

You folks must be scared to death of Obama. You keep repeating the same lies over and over.

Hillary has all the money, forget about Obama. In any case, the 2008 election will be called off for 'security reasons', and you'll all just go along with it.

Reading this forum is like waking up in the middle of the movie 'Idiocracy'.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
"In any case, the 2008 election will be called off for 'security reasons', and you'll all just go along with it."

What the hell does that mean???!!!
 

toonertoo

Most Awesome Dog
Staff member
Sammie, and Toonertoo, for falling for this,

Is Barack Obama a Muslim? - Netlore Archive

You folks must be scared to death of Obama. You keep repeating the same lies over and over.

Hillary has all the money, forget about Obama. In any case, the 2008 election will be called off for 'security reasons', and you'll all just go along with it.

Reading this forum is like waking up in the middle of the movie 'Idiocracy'.
HUH, I am not scared, I think its ridiculous.
Hes a fine young man, there are alot of fine young men, that doesnt make them presidential material.
And there is nothing that sets him apart from the guy down the street.
I dont happen to agree with anything he says, but he is a candidate, so only time will tell. I dont care if he did cocaine, or he smokes. He is running a campaign for which I give him credit, but I dont think he will win. He has ZERO experience. Yes Less than GW had. At least he was a governor........Kinda like Kucinich, duh, who would vote for that, Ok I guess a few of you may, but it is ludicrous. Actually a few of my friends who I thought had a clue and now I know they dont, still love em tho. Its like throwing your vote to the wind.
 

benschreivogel

Active Member
If experience has been responsible for this fine version of a peoples representitive government, I would like to vote for a new born child.
These government defects began long before G.W.. It has taken many decades to complete this recipe for chaos.
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
If you are considering a Clinton for pres. consider this:

Subject: FW: Bill & Hillary

Worse than you thought & worth remembering.

Dear (Ex) President Clinton:

"Thank you" for what you have done, specifically:

1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. Did I leave anyone out?

2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but now he knows more about it than I did as a
senior in college.

3. Thank you for showing us that sexual hara ssment in the work place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the meaning of "it" is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex.

4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all.

5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral.

6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising.

7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals.

8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.

9 Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars (I really didn't need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more deserving group
of recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars)
for all of your globe-trotting. I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other administration.

10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas)

11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends ."

12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate removing all of that excess weight (China, silverware, linen,
towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less
tax dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you!

13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance for her "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay!

14. The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part
of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners". However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at !
the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed
and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the
World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real
truth?

What a guy!!

If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts, pass this on. God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so wisely and frugally.

SINCERELY,
A US Citizen
PS.
Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for "inventing" the Internet, without which I would not be able to send this wonderful, factual e-mail.

AND THE REST OF THE STORY Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York State Senator, now comes under the "Congressional Retirement and Staffing
Plan," which means that even if she never gets reelected, she STILL receives her Congressional salary until she dies. (Would it not be nice if all Americans were pension eligible after only 4 years?)

If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is already getting his Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that?

WE DO!

It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York. Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for
life. Still makes sense.

Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at around $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the acreage to house the Secret Service agents.

The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of that extra residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This ! means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton's salary, mortgage, transportation, safety and security, as well as the
salaries for their 12 man staff -- and, this is all perfectly legal!

When she runs for President, will you vote for her?
 

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
That was a good read. I love Clinton bashing.

As far as Obama goes.....why would any decent human being vote for a guy that voted for "after birth abortions". For those of you that don't know what that is: It is when a regular abortion fails so the doctor kills the baby after it's born. Obama was for this!!! That right there should be enough for me to kick his arse off the list of people I might vote for. But then again.....since he is a commy liberal he was never on my list to begin with.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
That was a good read. I love Clinton bashing.

As far as Obama goes.....why would any decent human being vote for a guy that voted for "after birth abortions". For those of you that don't know what that is: It is when a regular abortion fails so the doctor kills the baby after it's born. Obama was for this!!! That right there should be enough for me to kick his arse off the list of people I might vote for. But then again.....since he is a commy liberal he was never on my list to begin with.

That's interesting. I've heard of partial birth abortions, but not "after birth abortions". Do you have a news link or something?
 

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
That's interesting. I've heard of partial birth abortions, but not "after birth abortions". Do you have a news link or something?

Barack Obama is being labeled as the rising

Or if you just want the specifics of it....

* Voted twice against prohibiting taxpayer-funded abortions
* Voted "present" on a bill to ban partial-birth abortions
* Voted repeatedly against a bill to protect babies born alive after a failed abortion procedure.
* Voted against filtering pornography on school and library computers
* Voted "present" on a bill to keep pornographic book stores and strip clubs at least 1000 feet from schools and churches
* Voted against a bill to allow school districts to punish unruly students
* Voted for sex education for kindergarten children.
* Voted against adding extra penalties for crimes committed by violent street gangs
* Was the only Illinois State Senator to vote against a bill prohibiting early release for criminal sex offenders


After I read this article I couldn't believe that people are actually considering voting for this guy. It also reaffirms Michael Savage's belief, and mine as well, that Liberalism is a mental disorder.
 

scratch

Least Best Moderator
Staff member
big_arrow_up,
I'm surprised that came off a CNN website. They must be backing Hillary. Obama's wife does seem to be pretty sharp. I wonder if she is the one with the brains between the two of them.
 
Sloth, or whatever you want to be called today, I saw where my husband had replied to this thread some time ago, and I am here to call you out. Check out the doctrine and philosophy of the church Obama attends, it is a racist church, and really in a respect even worse than a muslim mosque. They post their doctrine at their official website for anyone to read. I highly encourage everyone to read their doctrine and make your own decisions on this one. As for your great idea of raising minimum wage, where in the link you provided, does it say how much my family will have to pay in taxes, for these losers who have no desire to go beyond a minimum wage job. Screw them, if they are stuck in a minimum wage job for over 2 years, screw them, they don't want to advance, where as today, there are more than enough jobs out there to at least double that salary in the private sector. I have no sympathy, and neither does my husband for someone dumb enough to work in a minimum wage job for 10 years, and not try to better themselves, shame on them, not me, I shouldn't have to pay for their raise in my tax dollars, that is stupid.
 

canon

Well-Known Member
They post their doctrine at their official website for anyone to read.


Here it is...

Trinity United Church of Christ

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

Commitment to God
Commitment to the Black Community
Commitment to the Black Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
Click here to read about Dr. Wright’s talking points for Trinity United Church of Christ its Web site and the Black Value System.
Source: http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

I can't label him a racist because of the church he goes to. But if these are his beliefs.. I must say I feel a bit excluded.

And as a Christian, I can't find biblical justification for them to single out one particular race for promotion. Equality in the eyes of God seems to be skin deep at that church.

Never thought I'd say it... but Hillary in '08!
 

moreluck

golden ticket member
If another church listed all those 'concepts' and substituted the word 'white' they would be accused of being a racist organization.
 

over9five

Moderator
Staff member
Commitment to God
Commitment to the [-]Black[/-] WHITE Community
Commitment to the [-]Black[/-] WHITE Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the [-]Black[/-] WHITE Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"


More's right. Look, it's the Klans motto now.
 

Channahon

Well-Known Member
Obama, Clinton Campaigns Mark 'Bloody Sunday'

Candidates Reach Out To Black Voters At Events In Selma

Selma, Ala. Barack Obama reached out to the civil rights generation Sunday on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march, saying the protesters helped pave the way for his campaign to become the first black president. He also urged blacks to take more personal responsibility.

"I stand on the shoulders of giants," the Democratic senator from Illinois told hundreds at a breakfast to commemorate the 42nd anniversary of the clash between voting rights demonstrators and police.

He was just 3 when police with billy clubs bloodied blacks who tried to cross the bridge out of Selma on the way to Montgomery, the capital. On his first visit to Selma, Obama was coming face-to-face with Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton as the candidates seek support from the party's loyal black constituency.

At the First Baptist Church, a gathering place for protesters during the civil rights movement, Clinton urged the crowd of about 500 not to forget the sacrifices of Bloody Sunday.

"I come to share the memories of a troubled past and the hope of a better tomorrow," Clinton said. "It is our responsibility to make clear it is just as relevant today as was 42 years ago. We all know we have to finish the march. That is the call to our generation."

Obama and Clinton, joined by the former president, spoke at the same time from pulpits three blocks apart. They also were to appear together at a rally before making the ceremonial walk to the Edmund Pettus Bridge to honor the Selma-to-Montgomery marches.

In a call to action perhaps politically unfeasible for his white rivals to make, Obama said the current generation needs to honor the civil rights movement by taking responsibility for rejecting violence; cleaning up "40-ounce bottles" and other trash that litters urban neighborhoods; and voting in elections.

"How can it be that our voting rates dropped down to 30, 40, 50 percent when people shed their blood to allow us to vote?" Obama asked.

He criticized the Bush administration for opposing affirmative action and said blacks must fight for banks to reinvest in their communities and for more spending in their schools.

But, he added, parents also have to "turn off the television set and put away the Game Boy and make sure that you're talking to your teacher and that we get over the anti-intellectualism that exists in some of our communities where if you conjugate your verbs and if you read a book that somehow means you are acting white," he said.

The Selma civil rights demonstrations, Obama said, reverberated across the globe and helped inspire his father growing up in Kenya to aspire to something beyond his job herding goats. His father came to Hawaii to get an education under a program for African students and met Obama's mother, a fellow student from Kansas.

Obama said he was not surprised when it was reported this week that his white ancestors on his mother's side owned slaves. "That's no surprise in America," he said and added that his mother's family was inspired by the unity in the Selma marches.

"If it hasn't been for Selma, I wouldn't be here," Obama said. "This is the site of my conception. I am the fruits of your labor. I am the offspring of the movement. When people ask me if I've been to Selma before, I tell them I'm coming home."

At the breakfast, Obama got a key to the city and another to the county from a probate judge, Kim Ballard. "Forty-two years ago he might would have needed it because I understand it would open the jail cells," Ballard said. "But not today."

Other Democratic candidates are not leaving the black vote to Obama and Clinton.

John Edwards, the 2004 vice presidential nominee, was speaking about Selma and civil rights at the University of California, Berkeley.

"The fight for civil rights and equal rights and economic and social justice is more than just going to celebrations, even as wonderful as the one in Selma," Edwards said in remarks prepared for delivery later Sunday as he referred to Berkeley janitors' fight for a wage increase. "The fight is going on right here, right now."

Clinton's appeal among blacks is largely due to the popularity of her husband Bill -- author Toni Morrisson once famously named him the "first black president."

Early Sunday, Hillary Clinton spoke to about 100 current and former public officials, ministers, lobbyists and party stalwarts at a private, invitation-only breakfast in Montgomery.

"She doesn't sound like she's from the South, and she doesn't necessarily have that good ol' gal persona. But she came across today as a very warm, compassionate person," said one state party leader, Nancy Worley, a former secretary of state.

"You can't turn somebody into a Southerner who didn't grow up in the South like he (Bill Clinton) did. But she certainly did a good job showing her interest in people and her concern for people," Worley said.

Bill Clinton was being inducted Sunday afternoon into Selma's Voting Rights Hall of Fame. Hillary Clinton originally had intended to appear on his behalf.

But as plans were being finalized late Thursday for the dueling Obama-Clinton appearances, the Clinton campaign announced the former president would make the ceremony after all. His spotlight-stealing attendance marked the first time the couple campaigned together since Hillary Clinton announced she was running for president.

The former president's induction was to take place at the foot of bridge where police attacked the protesters on March 7, 1965. On that day, hundreds of marchers had begun to walk from the Brown Chapel AME Church -- where Obama was to deliver the keynote address Sunday -- despite a ban on protest marches by then-Gov. George Wallace.

The protesters made it six blocks before mounted troopers attacked them with billy clubs, tear gas and bullwhips while white onlookers cheered. U.S. Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., who at the time was an activist who helped organized the mark, suffered a fractured skull.

Thousands flocked to Selma in support of the marchers. Martin Luther King Jr. led a separate march to the bridge two days later. On March 21, 1965, after a federal court overturned Wallace's ban, King led the five-day march to the capital.

President Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act into law on Aug. 6, 1965. President Bush extended it last summer.
 
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