What I was responding to was the lack of expedient information about the deaths. The lawsuits may claim and or expose details about the cases. Lawsuits and settlements are often telling.
The IAM local in our area kisses the labor mgr's posterior.
Good for you.
Our IAM local for the most part does ok, its not perfect but we are keeping the work in the shop and they got us a nice annuity on top of our pension.
Your contract, from what I've seen locally, is pretty small in volume. Do you have working conditions addressed? Article 18 in the UPS/IBT National Master addresses it. If not I'm sure that your area OSHA office can address it. If they find merit in your claim then write a letter to them and sign it to make it a formal complaint. You can remain anonymous or you can tell the company that you filed the complaint. If your CBA addresses it file a grievance to get the paper trail started. Follow protocol by addressing it with management first. OSHA is greatly burdened with COVID complaint investigations so they probably won't do an on-site (in person) investigation unless someone is maimed, killed, or there is an amputation but they will formally addresses it.
Nice post.
I didn't read yours on Art 18 above until I posted. If you want things to change in your workplace you've got to stand up and do it yourself at times. Someone needs to lead.
So true.
Actually, all I've really said was that there is a chain of events in any accident/incident/injury/fatality. Always said I wasn't there nor you. Now, I've also only said that there are elements(people/equipment etc). I also said that it could be a singular or combination of supervision, human error, deliberate flauting of safety protocols etc. I also encouraged anyone to take some time to observe any operation at UPS to see this first hand. Now, your level of cognitive abilities is your burden. I'm sorry....can't fix stupid. We have a string of fatalities. Fact. There are a series of events leading to the deaths. Fact. Do I know exactly what those are? No. Fact. You? No. Fact also. A lot has been said on this thread about "safety culture" at UPS. I happen to agree with some of those statements as an opinion based on observation and experience. Yes, anecdotal but applicable I think. Are these "logical arguments"? IDK. Perhaps to a dog or tree stump or maybe just a hateful, sorry piece of human debris..
Which is doubly bizarre....especially by the hourlies.
Nice post.
It is a chronic and widespread attitude that I have seen at UPS.
The sheep will take the safety gains as long as they aren't involved with an incentive plan and when safety methods are universally applied that cuts down their bonus. They'll also let you fight the fight for them and back stab you in the back to stay in "good graces" with the supervisors.
