photo contest

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by DS, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    OK I am at wits end trying to devise a way to have a photo contest.
    Here it is.
    Submit a photo you took,no photo shopping except for red eye or cropping.
    Please,only original photos.All irrelevant posts on this thread will be deleted.
    Any questions can be sent to me by pm.
    No rules as of yet other than that.
    I'll start.

    Last edited: Jul 23, 2011
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    In keeping with the sunrise/sunset theme, oyster boats at sunrise at Eastpoint, FL launch point.
    Boats and waves at Sunrise_6892web.jpg
  3. DS

    DS Fenderbender

  4. CaliforniaPaul

    CaliforniaPaul Active Member

    Lenticular Cloud
  5. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    O.K. Now, that my computer is fixed I can enter a couple of pics.

  6. fethrs

    fethrs Well-Known Member

  7. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    I think you are right Steve ... let me elaborate why I think you are correct.

    Photo Shopping, which is the term DS used, is used to refer to the introduction of elements ( objects, colors, etc) that were not present in the scene that was captured in the camera.

    I think you are referring to "post-processing" (processing after the image was captured by the camera) which is what all photographers do when they process their pictures. If they don't do this, then you can be assured they are not a photographer (not that there is anything wrong with that).

    Coincidentally, I am writing an article on this subject for a website of a photographer friend ( I will outline a few facts on digital cameras and their resulting images that I will use for that article.

    Any picture that comes out of a digital camera has been "edited/enhanced". Every picture that you have ever seen in a magazine, newspaper, on TV or on the Internet that was taken with a digital camera has been enhanced. The reason is that a raw picture out of a digital camera (even one that costs $25,000) is just a terrible picture.

    As an example, refer to the picture of the bison that StevetheUPSguy posted in the thread "How's the view" ( which I like) has been edited and enhanced. Not how I would have enhanced but without a doubt "edited/enhanced".

    I will take my best guess on the adjustments made for several of the used parameters.
    I would say it has been sharpened by about 15% (it needs more), it has the saturation increased by about 13% (needs some selective saturation) , the blacks "shadows" have been increased by probably 3% (should have been at 9% or so in my opinion). It appears to have the mid-tones increased by 3 or 4 % to help bring out details in the image (definitely needs more). The contrast has been bumped up maybe 4 or 5 % but it needs more contrast which I normally will not do until I get the aforementioned settings right. Your white balance is off because the camera did not read it correctly ... it needs to be bumped up about 200 - 300 degrees Kelvin (the sky has too much cyan) to look more natural. This is probably the hardest thing for a digital camera to get right - in this case the sky along with blue in the mountains threw off the white balance.
    All professionals use tools get the White Balance right before they take the picture or they do it in post-production. Most just leave the camera on Auto White Balance and then adjust in post production. They will use an 18% Gray card as a reference and then adjust using that as the reference color.

    Bottom line, an engineer at the camera manufacturer made several "best guesses" for you as to how to best enhance your pictures, which is probably a good thing for the average picture taker. I would suggest you go into Menu and find "picture adjustment" (or something like that) and select Vivid or the one between Normal and Vivid for your camera to give you a more natural, vibrant image.

    Every digital camera has a set of stored reference files used to apply parametric adjustments to the actual image that helps to make the image out of the camera look like the old film cameras.
    Most cameras have at least a hundred stored images that are used for reference and some "professional" cameras will have as many as 8,000 reference images or more.
    Wedding photographers in particular use these reference images because they have to process hundreds of pictures in 3 or 4 hours - "turn them around" is the industry expression.
    There is an application in your camera that evaluates each image and based on variations in the image of colors, presence of sky, tonality and many other factors, selects a stored image that most closely matches the image and applies the parametric settings to the raw image to produce the jpg file you see in the rear screen and in the outputted file.

    If you and DS would like for me to, I can post a picture in three different versions:

    The First one will be straight out of the image file - neither of you have probably ever seen one and you don't need or want to. These images are very flat in tonality, not much color and not very sharp.

    The Second one will be an enhanced image straight out of the camera which is enhanced using the "Normal" setting on a camera. Note: "Normal" will vary by camera and manufacturer as each engineer will adjust the image enhancements based on the sensor sensitivity, bleed over between pixels and even the lens characteristics as well as many other affecting components of the image concentration and capture.

    The Third one will be one where I will take the raw image straight of the camera without any enhancements where I will try and recreate what my eyes and memory perceived the captured scene to be. Mine will always be better than the first and second images ... at least in my opinion and probably other experienced photographers.
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2011
  8. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    This is a Raw image before any enhancements have been made.
    ZHS_6976-RAW Image_web.jpg
  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    This is an image where the camera manufacturer engineers have enhanced the image.
    I actually like this image right out of the camera.
  10. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    This is the image that I produced by setting the enhancements parameters based on my memory of the actual scene.
    Old Boat at Sunrise_ZHS6976web.jpg
  11. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    ]Mar 08 08 007.jpg
    Resting for the next half mile to home.....
    Mar 08 08 007.jpg
  12. CharleyHustle

    CharleyHustle Active Member

    U P 025.jpg

    The water is turned brown from the roots of hemlock trees up stream.
    U P 025.jpg
  13. CharleyHustle

    CharleyHustle Active Member

    U P 048.jpg

    Years ago you could go under the falls.
    U P 048.jpg
  14. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I took this pic a few weeks ago when my wife and I got away for the weekend to a bed and breakfast in Depot Bay, Oregon. If you have ever seen the movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", the scene where Jack Nicholson steals a fishing boat and takes his fellow mental patients out to go salmon fishing was filmed on location here, and this bridge is visible in the scene where the Coast Guard brings them all back in.
    depoe bay.jpg
  15. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    That is beautiful!!
  16. ajblakejr

    ajblakejr Age quod agis

  17. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Here's one for you AJ
    Hibiscus yellow_5547_web.jpg
  18. Hawaii50

    Hawaii50 Active Member

    Last edited: Aug 16, 2011
  19. Hawaii50

    Hawaii50 Active Member

  20. Hawaii50

    Hawaii50 Active Member