Populist Indeed!

bacha29

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Hmmm, as I recall Putin invaded Ukraine and Georgia during the Obama administration. Same Pres who ridiculed Romney for saying Russia was our greatest geopolitical adversary. Same Pres who drew a "red line" in Syria. Same Pres who called ISIS the junior varsity. Same Pres who signed a very one sided agreement with Iran. The world got a whole lot more unstable before Trump came into office.
I could go back and blame Bush for Obama having to inherit the worst recession in 80 years, losing a million plus jobs a month but what good is that going to do now? Trump is now facing a real world environment not a television variety show. He has been in office for a month and you are already apologizing for him. If he has to confront a October 1962 style crisis will he have the emotional stability displayed by JFK giving the situation time to defuse or will he continue to overreact and when there are 20 Russian divisions closing in on Kiev with no intention of stopping there will he blame the media claiming that the invasion is "fake news"? Oh don't forget to sign up for Social Security and Medicare when the time comes. or are you going to refuse those benefits for the sake of the deficit and the conservative ideals you so strongly embrace? You know the programs the evil left fought the conservatives to get passed and will have a direct and positive bearing on the quality of your retirement.
 

bacha29

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Teacher's Unions are self serving of the interests of teachers more so than the students.


With respect, of course you do. Children usually share the political views of at least one parent.




The USA staged the Maidan crisis in 2014 to oust Viktor Yanukovych and prop up there guy Petro Poroshenko. Knowing it would provoke a response from Russian and give USA a reason to sanction. Crimea has always been Russian. Ask the people, they will tell you they prefer it that way. Whispers of impeachment? You really want CIA watergate stuff going on to remove the President?
Nixon was using the CIA and the FBI as his own private
Teacher's Unions are self serving of the interests of teachers more so than the students.


With respect, of course you do. Children usually share the political views of at least one parent.




The USA staged the Maidan crisis in 2014 to oust Viktor Yanukovych and prop up there guy Petro Poroshenko. Knowing it would provoke a response from Russian and give USA a reason to sanction. Crimea has always been Russian. Ask the people, they will tell you they prefer it that way. Whispers of impeachment? You really want CIA watergate stuff going on to remove the President?
if the charges are there and the votes are there then let the situation play itself out. Keep in mind it was the media you know the organization that Trump believes is an enemy of the American people is the same organization that exposed the Nixon crime syndicate that sent more that sent 40 members of his administration to jail. If Trump manages to stay in office until the mid term elections and he loses his Congressional majority it may usher in a new period of even greater political instability and if like Watergate captures the undivided attention of the nation it would be very unlikely that a foreign adversary would not try to capitalize on it.
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
I could go back and blame Bush for Obama having to inherit the worst recession in 80 years, losing a million plus jobs a month but what good is that going to do now?

Well, it would make you look dumb[er].

Oh don't forget to sign up for Social Security and Medicare when the time comes. or are you going to refuse those benefits for the sake of the deficit and the conservative ideals you so strongly embrace? You know the programs the evil left fought the conservatives to get passed and will have a direct and positive bearing on the quality of your retirement.

Only a fool would say that a conservative should, on principle, turn down benefits that he directly paid for and that are owed to him. And here's bacha to be that fool!
 

59 Dano

I just want to make friends!
This may in turn require Trump to reinstate the draft not just the registration part of it but people male and female suddenly finding themselves in Europe carrying a gun

I'll give you credit. While most of your posts consist of nothing but intemperate rambling that always leads to a ridiculously convoluted conclusion, this one... does too.
 

bacha29

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I'll give you credit. While most of your posts consist of nothing but intemperate rambling that always leads to a ridiculously convoluted conclusion, this one... does too.
Tell that to the WWII vets who never thought for a moment that they would find themselves having to take up arms to engage in history's greatest conflict which cost a nation of only 138 million people at the time 410,000 lives.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Well, golly gee, the teachers' unions have done so much to produce the finest students in the world. Our education system is 2nd to none. There is absolutely no need for fresh perspectives because everything is perfect now. Heaven forbid that kids in the ghetto get the chance to go to better schools with vouchers. Might figure out their school boards haven't done right by them.

Spouting the narrative, as usual. DeVos is your kind of leader.
 

bacha29

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Well, it would make you look dumb[er].



Only a fool would say that a conservative should, on principle, turn down benefits that he directly paid for and that are owed to him. And here's bacha to be that fool!
I'm pointing to the hypocrisy of Vt and scores like him who are always bashing the political movement while imperfect is responsible for the creation of the programs he'll have his hand out to collect which will in turn will provide the economic fall back position intended and to supplant the retirement security his employer has by his own admission reneged upon in order to divest itself of so called "legacy costs".
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
It is a cold hard fact that immigrants, legal or otherwise staff the American food industry. US agriculture is subsidized by government cash handouts, which are then used to pay the wages of border jumpers who export the cash to Mexico where the money is then returned back to the United States via cartel of illegal firearms.

Ukraine, Libya, and Syria are in ruins because of USA/CIA intervention.



Do rich kids really ever enlist? Unless they have a dream of working in politics later on? The infantry in the Marines and Army is overwhelmingly Caucasian, with a sprinkle of Mexican for the most part. Support jobs in the rear are by and large staffed with African Americans. For one reason or another, that is the way it is. With small exceptions along the way.

The American people have ADD when it comes to war and the stomach for war. What always makes me laugh it liberals that chant "love wins" as they blog from Starbucks. And are totally oblivious to the brown women and children the President kills with drone attacks in the name of freedom.

Trump battled heel spurs, which kept him out of military service. Rush Limbaugh had anal cysts, one of which was removed and became Mitch McConnell. Few to none of the Right Wingers ever served and most dodged service however they could.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
I'm pointing to the hypocrisy of Vt and scores like him who are always bashing the political movement while imperfect is responsible for the creation of the programs he'll have his hand out to collect which will in turn will provide the economic fall back position intended and to supplant the retirement security his employer has by his own admission reneged upon in order to divest itself of so called "legacy costs".

Van will happily collect his government "entitlement" checks, all the while complaining about socialism creeping into our government. In the meantime, he'll move to another country and take advantage of their socialized free health care.
 

It will be fine

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Well, golly gee, the teachers' unions have done so much to produce the finest students in the world. Our education system is 2nd to none. There is absolutely no need for fresh perspectives because everything is perfect now. Heaven forbid that kids in the ghetto get the chance to go to better schools with vouchers. Might figure out their school boards haven't done right by them.
Unless there is a prohibition on voucher money going to religious schools they shouldn't be allowed. I don't want my tax dollars funding religious indoctrination.
 

bacha29

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Unless there is a prohibition on voucher money going to religious schools they shouldn't be allowed. I don't want my tax dollars funding religious indoctrination.
Right man. Even during her senate confirmation hearing DeVos clearly pointed to an emerging double standard when she refused to require equal accountability from taxpayer supported private schools. And yes go into a church run school and take a good look. It's not education . it's mind control. And wait until the for profit private schools get their hands on all that taxpayer money.
 

vantexan

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Well since he was president at the time and it his foreign policy was still in play, it's really not the same.
True, but does being President mean he should let the Russians run over other nations as long as they wait until AFTER the election?
 

vantexan

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Right man. Even during her senate confirmation hearing DeVos clearly pointed to an emerging double standard when she refused to require equal accountability from taxpayer supported private schools. And yes go into a church run school and take a good look. It's not education . it's mind control. And wait until the for profit private schools get their hands on all that taxpayer money.
What matters is the kids get educated. The status quo isn't working.
 

vantexan

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I could go back and blame Bush for Obama having to inherit the worst recession in 80 years, losing a million plus jobs a month but what good is that going to do now? Trump is now facing a real world environment not a television variety show. He has been in office for a month and you are already apologizing for him. If he has to confront a October 1962 style crisis will he have the emotional stability displayed by JFK giving the situation time to defuse or will he continue to overreact and when there are 20 Russian divisions closing in on Kiev with no intention of stopping there will he blame the media claiming that the invasion is "fake news"? Oh don't forget to sign up for Social Security and Medicare when the time comes. or are you going to refuse those benefits for the sake of the deficit and the conservative ideals you so strongly embrace? You know the programs the evil left fought the conservatives to get passed and will have a direct and positive bearing on the quality of your retirement.
And absolutely none of that had anything to do with Obama's actions. Trump inherited the foreign policy mess from his predecessor. And his predecessor didn't do squat for the working class to improve things after being left with the biggest recession in 80 years. And the great programs the Left fought for? They won't be around much longer if we don't improve the economy.
 

vantexan

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Van will happily collect his government "entitlement" checks, all the while complaining about socialism creeping into our government. In the meantime, he'll move to another country and take advantage of their socialized free health care.
No, I won't. Mexico's almost free healthcare? Total crap. Private clinics that are still affordable, pay as you go, are the way to go in Mexico.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I'm pointing to the hypocrisy of Vt and scores like him who are always bashing the political movement while imperfect is responsible for the creation of the programs he'll have his hand out to collect which will in turn will provide the economic fall back position intended and to supplant the retirement security his employer has by his own admission reneged upon in order to divest itself of so called "legacy costs".
My hand is out? I'm moving to where my money goes further, something you don't have the cojones to do. You want everything guaranteed in life? I think promises made should be kept, but if things don't work out, fight forward.
 

bacha29

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My hand is out? I'm moving to where my money goes further, something you don't have the cojones to do. You want everything guaranteed in life? I think promises made should be kept, but if things don't work out, fight forward.
Are you prepared to state for the record that you will NOT apply for Social Security and Medicare benefits?
 
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