President Trump

[newfie]

You can't rewrite books that have already been created. Smh. .

really? the schools teach our kids with the books that have modified history accounts all the time. do you hear anything when you shake that head?

 

[newfie]

Those who are in favor of confederate symbols believe that white people rightfully should be dominating and in power. .

so the descendents of the confederates don't care about preserving their history, just want to keep white people in power ? how naïve can you be.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

really? the schools teach our kids with the books that have modified history accounts all the time. do you hear anything when you shake that head?

No doubt about that.
Just take a look in the books Christian schools use, total garbage.

 

[Sportello]

 

[It will be fine]

 

[rod]

Your post begs a question. One we should all ask ourselves. Why do we believe something that we haven't bothered to research?

I mean have you really read enough history books to make some kind of quality or accuracy comparison of those books, have you read studies that try to measure the historical accuracy of history books?

And if you haven't done those things, you should ask yourself why do you believe what you believe about history books.

So my point still stands. There are history books that exist. So pretending that taking down statues erases history is 100% phony.

I've lived history

 

[Catatonic]

I've lived history

In case you missed it, he believes sitting around discussing and thinking about something is superior to experience.
Of course, that is the nature of the Alt-left and libs in general.

 

[rod]

In case you missed it, he believes sitting around discussing and thinking about something is superior than experience.
Of course, that is the nature of the Alt-left and libs in general.

I miss a lot of things. Then again I don't give a friend about a lot of things either.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

In case you missed it, he believes sitting around discussing and thinking about something is superior to experience.
Of course, that is the nature of the Alt-left and libs in general.

Lol alt left.
I smell a trumpflake.

 

[refineryworker05]

so the descendents of the confederates don't care about preserving their history, just want to keep white people in power ? how naïve can you be.

People preserve history to honor it or remember it. Statues and symbols can be used to honor or remember history. The confederate symbols were placed to honor the confederacy.

But what are they honoring? Their family's association with a murderous racist evil death cult that killed a huge number of enslaved people and American soldiers all to keep other Americans in enslaved? No one is trying to honor that and we have history books to remember it.

So they are about preserving power that's all there is to this for those in favor of confederate symbols.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Repeal Obamacare FAIL
Repeal nafta FAIL
Tax Reform FAIL
Trump FAIL

If this ass hat didn't have these kind of distractions he would have nothing but his failures.

 

[refineryworker05]

really? the schools teach our kids with the books that have modified history accounts all the time. do you hear anything when you shake that head?

Again, another expert on what history books teach in school. This is an absurd assertion that you probably have zero proof to support and haven't even bothered to research.
So you have knowledge of the comparative quality and historical accuracy of history books now versus those in the past in all grades for all American students in all schools? That's a lot. You really sure you know about this topic or do you believe something about this topic?

 

[refineryworker05]

I've lived history

Huh? What does that mean? You have lived American history? So that means you know the comparative quality and historical accuracy of history books now versus those in the past? I don't get your point.

 

[refineryworker05]

In case you missed it, he believes sitting around discussing and thinking about something is superior to experience.
Of course, that is the nature of the Alt-left and libs in general.

What you just asserted is nowhere in my posts and so it is a not true. Experience can be superior in certain areas, but in terms of societal wide issues personal experience is not enough. One has to actually research a topic read about it to gain a greater understanding.

Like the comparative quality and accuracy of history books now versus those in the past, how can someone's personal experiences unless they are someone who writes history books to all grade levels and all historical subject matters be adequate to give a credible reality based conclusion about this topic?

 

[Brown echo]

 

[refineryworker05]

Repeal Obamacare FAIL
Repeal nafta FAIL
Tax Reform FAIL
Trump FAIL

If this ass hat didn't have these kind of distractions he would have nothing but his failures.

When it comes to policy, Trump has been a colossal failure so far.

But I honestly don't think policy is why republican voters support elected republicans or conservatives. There is something else that republican voters get from Trump being president and from republicans controlling Congress that is separate from actual policy success.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

But I honestly don't think policy is why republican voters support elected republicans or conservatives. There is something else that republican voters get from Trump being president and from republicans controlling Congress that is separate from actual policy success.

Are you hinting at making a point because you're building suspense or because you haven't come up with one yet?

 

[Catatonic]

When it comes to policy, Trump has been a colossal failure so far.

But I honestly don't think policy is why republican voters support elected republicans or conservatives. There is something else that republican voters get from Trump being president and from republicans controlling Congress that is separate from actual policy success.

Yeah, 'no policy' success.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Yeah, 'no policy' success.

If that was his goal it would be a success.
It wasn't, so it's not.

 

[refineryworker05]

I don't think the actual total failure of conservatism as a governing ideology at the national level has really been given the attention it deserves. Trump and this Congress are just the latest examples.

Think of all of the major challenges America has faced since 2000, what has conservative policies been right about? The Iraq War, The War on Terror, torture, The financial crisis, The stimulus, the auto bailouts, the impact of ending DADT in the military, the ACA impact on health insurance, Gay marriage, Heck the ebola crisis, etc.

Conservatives had a story to tell about each of those incidents and imo they were proven wrong on every one of those incidents by objective reality playing out.

I think Trump's rise represents the utter failure of conservative ideology over the last 20years to address issues.