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Ronald Reagan
Reagan's administration was beset by an endless string of scandals.

  • A huge procurement scandal called Operation Ill Wind, which gutted the military and Defense Department.
  • A massive scandal that involved HUD.
  • A copyright infringement case in the Department of Justice called the Inslaw Affair.
  • The EPA's Sewergate scandal.
By far, the biggest scandal that tarred Reagan was Iran-Contra, a complex scheme between 1985 and 1986 under which the heads of the CIA and National Defense Council hatched a conspiracy to sell missiles to Iran in exchange for the return of U.S. hostages.

Richard Nixon
The gold standard of presidential corruption, Nixon is the only POTUS in history to have to resign as he was facing certain impeachment after the Watergate scandal.

But Watergate isn't the only scandal that tarred Nixon and his administration.

  • Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew, also had to resign about a year before Nixon did after he was implicated in a tax evasion scheme.
  • Nixon's CIA director, meanwhile, was convicted of conducting illegal surveillance on U.S. journalists and plotting assassinations in Chile.
  • Nixon's SEC chair had to resign after less than three months in office after altering a negative finding against a Nixon fundraiser.
Warren G. Harding
Harding served only two years before his death in 1923, but his administration was consumed by both personal and political scandal.

  • Harding was a notorious philanderer, and in the waning days of his time in the senate, he was blackmailed by a former mistress who threatened to expose their affair if Harding didn't vote against war with Germany.
  • Harding's cabinet had the dubious distinction of being the first to have a member convicted of a crime, after Secretary of the Interior Albert Fell was sent to prison as part of the Teapot Dome scandal, in which Fell accepted bribes to lease the Navy's oil reserves at Teapot Dome, Wyoming, to private companies.
  • The Teapot Dome scandal also claimed Harding's secretary of the Navy.
  • Harding's attorney general resigned in 1924 over a bootlegging kickback scheme.
  • Two other Harding department heads were convicted of bribery and fraud: Charles Forbes, for massively defrauding the government while building VA hospitals, and Office of Alien Property head Thomas Miller, for illegally selling German patents seized after World War I.
Ulysses S. Grant
Grant himself was known for his honesty, but his administration was likely the most corrupt in the 19th century.

A near-ceaseless flow of money from speculation and western expansion led to an epidemic of corruption, and Grant responded by stubbornly protecting those accused of graft.

  • A massive conspiracy to pilfer tax revenue from whiskey sales, called the Whiskey Ring, snared more than 100 federal, state, and local officials.
  • The secretaries of the Navy, of war and of the treasury all faced allegations of bribery and taking kickbacks.
  • The Salary Grab Act was passed by Congress at the end of Grant's first term to enact gigantic retroactive pay raises for itself and to increase the salary of the president.
  • Grant's administration was gutted by the Credit Mobilier scandal, in which a construction company massively overcharged the Union Pacific Railroad. The company pulled off the scam thanks to millions in bribes paid to the vice president, the secretary of the treasury, four senators, and the speaker of the House.

Andrew Jackson
The inherently corrupt "spoils system," under which government officials were hired based on what they'd done for the incoming administration rather than on merit, dominated politics in the 19th century. It began with Andrew Jackson, who purged the ineffectual career bureaucracy of past administrations — and his administration was beset by a mob of office-seekers in response.

Jackson was unable to keep federal offices nonpartisan and rewarded lucrative jobs to donors, friends, business associates, newspaper editors who had written in support of Jackson, Army veterans, and seemingly random characters.

The result was a cavalcade of theft and corruption in distant offices and military posts, including $1.2 million embezzled from the New York City Customs House, the most lucrative point of entry in the U.S.

It took decades to dismantle the spoils system that started under Jackson — and it can be argued that it's never gone away completely.
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watdaflock?

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Yea I know. I stomped your stupid argument , so now you're trying to claim you had facts. go out and ride the big wheel while the grown ups talk.
Go back and read again. My rebuttals, unlike yours, are facts. You posted opinions.

you said, "clinton is the most corrupt" which isn't true. Then you go on about how being investigated by the FBI is supposedly something new, as if an investigation should prevent anyone from being elected.
Funny how it only works one way with you, ignoring all of the past legal issues by Trump, while vilifying Clinton for only being under investigation.
 
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newfie

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Go back and read again. My rebuttals, unlike you, are facts. You posted opinions.

yea that's usually the next step. you get your but kicked by sound argument and then beg me to go back and read your garbage in an effort to find one small item that may make sense. I don't give out participation trophy's . Trumps in charge now , time to earn your way honestly in this world.
 

KingofFluff

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yea that's usually the next step. you get your but kicked by sound argument and then beg me to go back and read your garbage in an effort to find one small item that may make sense. I don't give out participation trophy's . Trumps in charge now , time to earn your way honestly in this world.
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MrFedEx

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They were definitely dirty. The only difference between him and the Clintons is, he ended up dead. With the Clintons other people end up dead.

Kennedy money is dirty, and Joe Kennedy was a vile, reprehensible man. Maybe Clinton money is dirty too, but nobody has proved it yet. How about Trump money? Have we ever had a President enter office with 3500 lawsuits pending? Do you think all of them are without merit?
 
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