R.I.P. Fred S

[BrownFlush]

Plenty of other UPS drivers making assumptions. Ask Brownflush.

 

[UnionStrong]

Lunch over @230. Had an Econoline van.
5-8 stops left. No pick ups. 830-900 clock off. Had that route for almost 15 years.

I saw that in my first 7 years of cover. They never broke a sweat. I sht you not. I’m not begrudging them the job, I’m not saying others didn’t work harder, I am saying they should have unionized . But they were fat dumb and happy, and lied to. That’s why our pay went up contractually and theirs didn’t. Trust, but get it in writing.

 

[Fred's Myth]

I'm like UnionStrong. All I ever seen them deliver was letters and a few tubes.
In fact, I interviewed but didn't do it. I wanted the gravy instead of the money.
Our strike is what made FedGround. That's when I started seeing actual packages in express.

American Airlines...coffee maker batteries....hundreds a day coming and going....125 to 150 (winkwink) pounds each. Had a friend rip a muscle off the bone handling them. Big guy, 250+ pounds, all muscle.

Letters and tubes don't rip muscles off of bone.

 

[vantexan]

I saw that in my first 7 years of cover. They never broke a sweat. I sht you not. I’m not begrudging them the job, I’m not saying others didn’t work harder, I am saying they should have unionized . But they were fat dumb and happy, and lied to. That’s why our pay went up contractually and theirs didn’t. Trust, but get it in writing.

Except we got put under the Railroad Labor Act. We had a chance in 2010 to be put under the National Labor Relations Act with Congress set to vote on the Express Employees Relief Act. Fred donated $32 million to mostly Democrats to get the Act tabled. Not only that but they required from then on all national union votes to only happen after 50%+1 of a class signed union cards. Used to be 35%. After that the Teamsters walked away from us. All of this was discussed extensively here in 2010. And every so often we have some UPS fellow come on here and tell us we're all dips for not voting for a union. Under the RLA there is no station by station vote. Has to be national which now is pretty much impossible.

 

[Cactus]

Those are not Express employees. Express employees missed that boat years ago. It became pretty much impossible after the Railway Labor Act was passed.

Fred made that all possible by paying off his friends in D.C. He’ll always be a weasel even if he’s no longer around.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Fred made that all possible by paying off his friends in D.C. He’ll always be a weasel even if he’s no longer around.

So you’re not sending a sympathy card?

 

[Cactus]

So you’re not sending a sympathy card?

Hell no.

That stab in our backs from that RLA deal is still being felt.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Hell no.

That stab in our backs from that RLA deal is still being felt.

No disagreement for me,

 

[Cactus]

No disagreement for me,

Still a lot of folks who look at Fred through rose colored glasses.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Still a lot of folks who look at Fred through rose colored glasses.

At the end of the day, he made sure to take care of his rich friends and shareholders. He didn’t care one bit about the workers. He Went to great lengths to make sure they couldn’t take care of themselves.

 

[Cactus]

At the end of the day, he made sure to take care of his rich friends and shareholders. He didn’t care one bit about the workers. He Went to great lengths to make sure they couldn’t take care of themselves.

Spot on!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Spot on!

Yep, I only say that because I spent about six months on the original campaign to organize FedEx. I watched many of these FedEx drivers say they thought Fred would take care of them and some of them were just afraid. Not that there wasn’t any support for Union, eventually they weeded those guys out but Fred and his crew wanted to make sure that they turned FedEx into a throwaway job. And here we are.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Except we got put under the Railroad Labor Act. We had a chance in 2010 to be put under the National Labor Relations Act with Congress set to vote on the Express Employees Relief Act. Fred donated $32 million to mostly Democrats to get the Act tabled. Not only that but they required from then on all national union votes to only happen after 50%+1 of a class signed union cards. Used to be 35%. After that the Teamsters walked away from us. All of this was discussed extensively here in 2010. And every so often we have some UPS fellow come on here and tell us we're all dips for not voting for a union. Under the RLA there is no station by station vote. Has to be national which now is pretty much impossible.

The Teamsters did not just walk away. The reality is Obama had promised a lot of people he would work hard to get rid of the railway act designation on FedEx and he did the opposite once Fred ponied up the cash..

At that point there was really nothing we could do. Believe it or not the Teamsters just didn’t have the money to fight something like that. And certainly organizing one terminal at a time was never going to work.

 

[59 Dano]

Those are not Express employees. Express employees missed that boat years ago. It became pretty much impossible after the Railway Labor Act was passed.

The RLA was passed in 1926 and was amended to include airlines and airline employees in 1936.

 

[Fred's Myth]

The RLA was passed in 1926 and was amended to include airlines and airline employees in 1936.

He lives!

 

[anonymous23456]

Did Fred take all the money with him?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Those are not Express employees. Express employees missed that boat years ago. It became pretty much impossible after the Railway Labor Act was passed.

Yep, those are FedEx ground drivers. And contractors they don’t stay a very long because they don’t stay with the company very long.

 

[UnionStrong]

Yep, those are FedEx ground drivers. And contractors they don’t stay a very long because they don’t stay with the company very long.

Slaves

 

[Thebrownblob]

Slaves

Actually, they’re worse than slaves. They’re working for the contractors that are slaves so their slaves slaves..

 

[UnionStrong]

Actually, they’re worse than slaves. They’re working for the contractors that are slaves so their slaves slaves..