R.I.P. Fred S

[UnionStrong]

I'd rather do this than that only last so long.
Driving back from your last stop for 60 miles, in the cold dark, and clocking off at 9 after getting beat to death on secondary roads all day wears thin fast if you're not making your bills.
The grocery store guy was in a heated isle and went home at 4.

That’s why UPS was able to not only attract, but retain quality drivers. When I started it was competitive. The company had the benefit of having a lot of people that wanted the job. The job was brutal, not for everyone, but the company threw money at you. Tough enough to do this sht? We will pay you! Having said that, it’s out of control. Money isn’t the only factor. The toll it takes on the body and your quality of life is big. You ain’t taking anything with you. You don’t have an infinite amount of time. Retire if you’re able.

 

[UnionStrong]

Not in the rural areas they're expanding into. A lot of small towns in this country that lost a factory and have not much more than fast food, groceries, city and county jobs. Driving a school bus. A lot of those jobs are part time. If Amazon paid me $19hr to work 55 hrs in those areas I'd consider myself lucky.

Lots of people in rural areas?

 

[UnionStrong]

Not in the rural areas they're expanding into. A lot of small towns in this country that lost a factory and have not much more than fast food, groceries, city and county jobs. Driving a school bus. A lot of those jobs are part time. If Amazon paid me $19hr to work 55 hrs in those areas I'd consider myself lucky.

Very low labor pool

 

[BrownFlush]

 

[vantexan]

I'd rather do this than that only last so long.
Driving back from your last stop for 60 miles, in the cold dark, and clocking off at 9 after getting beat to death on secondary roads all day wears thin fast if you're not making your bills.
The grocery store guy was in a heated isle and went home at 4.

I did several remote, domiciled routes. Met someone on the road to get freight, had no or very few pickups, went straight home from my route. Better than working in a station any day of the week. Leave it to mgmt to eff up a good thing or I would've never left until retirement.

Grocery guy, at least when I worked for four years at Publix, came in at 4-5 a.m. We part-timers not only stocked but bagged groceries, cleaned toilets, mopped floors, waxed floors until 1:30 a.m. after starting at 5 a.m. the previous morning, and helped take inventory every quarter. Great when you're young, but as a 35 year old I'd rather be in the countryside dropping off pkgs.

 

[vantexan]

Very low labor pool

They only need a few drivers.

 

[BrownFlush]

That’s why UPS was able to not only attract, but retain quality drivers. When I started it was competitive. The company had the benefit of having a lot of people that wanted the job. The job was brutal, not for everyone, but the company threw money at you. Tough enough to do this sht? We will pay you! Having said that, it’s out of control. Money isn’t the only factor.

When I walked into the center the Christmas of 79 there was over 200-250 people standing around waiting to fill out the paperwork. Carter and Reagan had killed us all. No jobs. Layoffs everywhere. UPS stabbed even harder because of it.

 

[vantexan]

Lots of people in rural areas?

Much larger routes. Might have 4 or 5 towns ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand people. Might have a town of 15,000 that's enough to keep one or two guys busy.

 

[Fred's Myth]

He made about a million predictions about all kinds of things. One of them, years and years after it was supposed to have already happened, started to happen somewhat. I'd trust your predictions on the future of atomic energy technology more than I'd trust him on what he had for lunch today.

Actually, it was Mr. Fedex that gave corporate the idea! I know, because I read it in the Babylon Bee!

 

[UnionStrong]

When I walked into the center the Christmas of 79 there was over 200-250 people standing around waiting to fill out the paperwork. Carter and Reagan had killed us all. No jobs. Layoffs everywhere. UPS stabbed even harder because of it.

I wasn’t walking out without a job. I had mouths to feed, and uncle Vito.

 

[BrownFlush]

I wasn’t walking out without a job. I had mouths to feed, and uncle Vito.

I was right there with you.

 

[UnionStrong]

I was right there with you.

Call it whatever, divine intervention, will power. All I know is if I didn’t get the job, I’d have been screwed.

 

[BrownFlush]

Call it whatever, divine intervention, will power. All I know is if I didn’t get the job, I’d have been screwed.

I stood in line downtown the week before for government cheese and butter.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I remember all the Express guys telling me it was impossible for Ground to handle Express.

It's not an issue of can't. It's won't. And no Ground isn't doing as good or better than Express.
FedEx’s cost-cutting could impact package delivery - TheStreet https://share.google/t0VCMFFgx3zsLh5x0

 

[BigUnionGuy]

FedEx to close 30% of package facilities as network integration ramps up

FedEx is accelerating the overhaul of its express and package delivery networks to eliminate excess capacity and improve customer service.

www.freightwaves.com

 

[It will be fine]

It's not an issue of can't. It's won't. And no Ground isn't doing as good or better than Express.
FedEx’s cost-cutting could impact package delivery - TheStreet https://share.google/t0VCMFFgx3zsLh5x0

lol. That “article” is just some Karen crying with no actual knowledge of what service levels are. It’s not like FedEx is sharing that info with anyone, everything is just rumor.

 

[MAKAVELI]

lol. That “article” is just some Karen crying with no actual knowledge of what service levels are. It’s not like FedEx is sharing that info with anyone, everything is just rumor.

They aren't sharing that info because they know service is in the tank wherever they've moved Express services to Ground.

 

[Thebrownblob]

They aren't sharing that info because they know service is in the tank wherever they've moved Express services to Ground.

I have no idea what the truth is about the merger of FedEx, ground and express although it sounds like a disaster.

I do know in the last 6 to 8 months. They absolutely cannot keep anyone on these routes more than just a few weeks. The turnover is crazy.

UPS has always been about stability, and service providers having a long career, although now I think UPS is envious of the FedEx contractor model. Or at least Carol is.

 

[Fred's Myth]

lol. That “article” is just some Karen crying with no actual knowledge of what service levels are. It’s not like FedEx is sharing that info with anyone, everything is just rumor.

Someone is hooked on Subramaniam kool-aid…

 

[oldngray]

Someone is hooked on Subramaniam kool-aid…

tastes like curry