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whiskey
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Your bottom line summation is only half baked. You need 30 years on the road to qualify as completely baked.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
It's like the energizer bunny............................it keeps going and going and going and going.............................LOLi get tired of seeig this thread in brown cafe everynight.
dannyboy
From the promised LAND
Hey kid
You lost your job because you were dishonest, its that simple. And since you can not produce a written instruction telling you to falsify your records from your supervisors, you are all on your own. Dishonesty is one of the cardinal sins at UPS. That and drinking on the job, but most are not stupid enough to do either.
So, to give you a real world answer, you dont have a snowballs chance in hell of getting your job back.
There are some schmucks that have posted that you would or should be able to get the job back. Ask them how it worked out for them when they got canned. As for the rest, they have no experience before a panel and arbitration on this subject. Your chances are ZERO.
Best to you in your next career.
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You lost your job because you were dishonest, its that simple. And since you can not produce a written instruction telling you to falsify your records from your supervisors, you are all on your own. Dishonesty is one of the cardinal sins at UPS. That and drinking on the job, but most are not stupid enough to do either.
So, to give you a real world answer, you dont have a snowballs chance in hell of getting your job back.
There are some schmucks that have posted that you would or should be able to get the job back. Ask them how it worked out for them when they got canned. As for the rest, they have no experience before a panel and arbitration on this subject. Your chances are ZERO.
Best to you in your next career.
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UPSviking
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How is this for stupid then?:
We recently had an bulk shiptment of Oreo´s come thru and the guy scanning the inbound opened one of the boxes and started eating them while scanning!!?.
Needless to say he is no longer working with UPS.....
Jeesh, he was hungry. Give him a break!!!
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I would suggest that you count your blessings and learn a lesson from all this.
Do it right from now on.
Anonymous 10
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If you don't go to union meetings already you should start don't miss one tell your story to make a difference for another brother or sister. your B.A. no doubt worked his ASS off to get your JOB back he needs your help remember your the union not him.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Congradulations. Everybody deserves a second chance and you got yours.
Life is a list of lessons learned.
helenofcalifornia
Well-Known Member
Someone got a nice Christmas present!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
A couple of things to ponder....
Those among us without sin are free to cast the first stone.
As a matter of principle, dishonesty ought to be grounds for termination; but principle without compassion or common sense is nothing more than intellectual masturbation.
From my very first day as a driver, I was trained and instructed by my management team to be dishonest.
I was instructed to indicate on my time card that I took an hour lunch when in fact I took none.
I was dispatched with an impossible amount of NDA and instructed to write false times on the peel-off labels in order to avoid service failures.
The "time study" for my route was intentionally rigged by IE to be an hour and a half behind reality in order to create a "standard" that could only be met by working off of the clock.
UPS management has historically lived in a glass house when it comes to the subject of dishonesty; its a bit hypocritical when they choose to throw stones.
I dont condone dishonesty and I know that two wrongs dont make a right. From a moral standpoint, however, there is in my mind a difference between selfish dishonesty for personal gain... versus misguided dishonesty that is committed with the best of intentions.
In life, there are shades of grey.
Those among us without sin are free to cast the first stone.
As a matter of principle, dishonesty ought to be grounds for termination; but principle without compassion or common sense is nothing more than intellectual masturbation.
From my very first day as a driver, I was trained and instructed by my management team to be dishonest.
I was instructed to indicate on my time card that I took an hour lunch when in fact I took none.
I was dispatched with an impossible amount of NDA and instructed to write false times on the peel-off labels in order to avoid service failures.
The "time study" for my route was intentionally rigged by IE to be an hour and a half behind reality in order to create a "standard" that could only be met by working off of the clock.
UPS management has historically lived in a glass house when it comes to the subject of dishonesty; its a bit hypocritical when they choose to throw stones.
I dont condone dishonesty and I know that two wrongs dont make a right. From a moral standpoint, however, there is in my mind a difference between selfish dishonesty for personal gain... versus misguided dishonesty that is committed with the best of intentions.
In life, there are shades of grey.
ZEPHYR
Laurel Mountain
We have a jackass at our hub with a chip on his shoulder. He has threatened the lives of management and coworkers, pushed a supervisor during one of his refusals to do what he is told, the sup fell backwards on his butt and slid across the floor. Comes and goes as he pleases, wears tennis shoes. He almost lost his job several times but is still with the company. Fight it
stevetheupsguy
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That's not a jackass, that's a bully that shouldn't be working at U-P-S. There's an 800 number you can call about such a person. This is the type of person that will kill someone one day and blame it on the deceased.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
What about the management team that tacitly condoned his behavior by over-dispatching and placing the impossible expectations on this driver in the first place? Should they be fired also? Or is the driver the only one here who should be accountable for anything?
MC4YOU2
Wherever I see Trump, it smells like he's Putin.
The culture of our beloved company encourages and embraces all kinds of dishonesty while preaching honesty.
How about all those CBT's we must pass monthly? Our AM OMS always reads the correct responses so no one learns a damn thing. If you are taking the test with several others, the OMS will read the answers aloud before everyone is done to hurry things along. Now tell me that the fact that those 100% pass rates mean nothing when an employee is on the hot seat and the old test scores are brought out of the archive and shown back to "prove" that said employee "knew the correct answers". Dishonesty is the UPS path to righteousness. We may not be alone in this regard, but we do foster a culture of it in our workplace.
How about all those CBT's we must pass monthly? Our AM OMS always reads the correct responses so no one learns a damn thing. If you are taking the test with several others, the OMS will read the answers aloud before everyone is done to hurry things along. Now tell me that the fact that those 100% pass rates mean nothing when an employee is on the hot seat and the old test scores are brought out of the archive and shown back to "prove" that said employee "knew the correct answers". Dishonesty is the UPS path to righteousness. We may not be alone in this regard, but we do foster a culture of it in our workplace.
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